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dieseldo
i am an experienced taxi driver and in the 32 yrs i have held a license have never had an accident, recently i received a letter from the police (i've attached the letter with any personal details deleted), it alleges that i committed the offence of driving without due care and attention, failing to stop and failing to report a collision on the 20/3/15.

i am the only person who has driven this car so must have been driving the car at the time of the accident, but i have no recollection whatsoever of any accident, (i'm sure i would remember if i was involved in an accident). i also have no idea where i was at the time of the accident as it was nearly 2 months ago.

the letter requires me to give details of the driver and an accompanying letter giving details of the accident, could anyone give me any advice on how to approach this as this is very worrying as it could adversely affect my occupation, and i am frightened to death of of the cosequences should i be convicted for an offence i don't even though i committed. thanks in advance for any help

Jlc
One presumes it's the request for the driver at the time of alleged incident? (Under s172 Road Traffic Act)

The request must give the date/time and location - is it a location you would have been at that time?
The Rookie
The accusation merely requires there to be a claim that the accident occurred as a result of your vehicles presence on the road, it doesn't mean you were directly involved in an accident.

How recently did you get the NIP/S172? that's a long delay!
Gan
As it's a taxi the question's probably pointless but is the address fairly local and therefore somewhere you've been ?

Are there any other taxis in the area with similar registration numbers ?

Does the request for your account include a caution that it can be used as evidence ?

Don't see why you can't reply :

Dear Sir

Ref ****

The only possible driver of the vehicle is myself

Name :
Address :
Date of birth :
Driving licence number :

The vehicle makes numerous unplanned journeys every day and it is impossible to confirm its location at a specific time two months ago.

It was not involved in an accident at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion.

Neither am I aware of any incident that would give rise to the allegation or assist me to recall the journey

I am therefore unable to provide the account that you have requested unless you could provide more specific details of the allegation

Yours Faithfully


Staple it to the form
Keep a copy
Get a receipt of posting

Reply in plenty of time to give yourself a second bite before the deadline if they do provide more details
ford poplar
OP, no letter attached to post, did you follow FAQ sticky on How to attach images?
What date is on the letter & when was it received?
Send Gan's letter asap.
RD400E
QUOTE (Gan @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 16:08) *
The vehicle makes numerous unplanned journeys every day and it is impossible to confirm its location at a specific time two months ago.

It was not involved in an accident at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion.


That's a bit obscure!
Sparxy
QUOTE (RD400E @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 18:03) *
QUOTE (Gan @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 16:08) *
The vehicle makes numerous unplanned journeys every day and it is impossible to confirm its location at a specific time two months ago.

It was not involved in an accident at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion.


That's a bit obscure!



Would a better way of phrasing it be

"To my knowledge the vehicle has not been involved in an accident, at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion"

?
666
Is the vehicle a hackney carriage or a private hire car?

If the former, the journeys may be unplanned but are they really unrecorded? Aren't there at least cash records which could jog the driver's memory?
dieseldo
QUOTE (Jlc @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 15:44) *
One presumes it's the request for the driver at the time of alleged incident? (Under s172 Road Traffic Act)

The request must give the date/time and location - is it a location you would have been at that time?

firstly thanks for your fast response and helpful replies. yes it is a request for the driver at the time of the alleged incident and yes it does give the time and location. the location is in the borough i work in so it is possible i was in the location, but its a large borough i could be conceivably be 20 miles away and in the same borough.

QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 15:54) *
The accusation merely requires there to be a claim that the accident occurred as a result of your vehicles presence on the road, it doesn't mean you were directly involved in an accident.

How recently did you get the NIP/S172? that's a long delay!

i received the letter on 29/04/15

QUOTE (Gan @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 16:08) *
As it's a taxi the question's probably pointless but is the address fairly local and therefore somewhere you've been ?

Are there any other taxis in the area with similar registration numbers ?

Does the request for your account include a caution that it can be used as evidence ?

Don't see why you can't reply :

Dear Sir

Ref ****

The only possible driver of the vehicle is myself

Name :
Address :
Date of birth :
Driving licence number :

The vehicle makes numerous unplanned journeys every day and it is impossible to confirm its location at a specific time two months ago.

It was not involved in an accident at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion.

Neither am I aware of any incident that would give rise to the allegation or assist me to recall the journey

I am therefore unable to provide the account that you have requested unless you could provide more specific details of the allegation

Yours Faithfully


Staple it to the form
Keep a copy
Get a receipt of posting

Reply in plenty of time to give yourself a second bite before the deadline if they do provide more details

as explained earlier, it is possible i could of been in that area, but the area i work is very large.

no i can't see anywhere that my account can be used as evidence.

thanks for the advice on what to reply, i will use this as a template

QUOTE (ford poplar @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 17:03) *
OP, no letter attached to post, did you follow FAQ sticky on How to attach images?
What date is on the letter & when was it received?
Send Gan's letter asap.

sorry no i didn't read the sticky, i have now and will attempt upload again, apologies but i'm not very good with a computer.

i received the letter beginning of may and it was dated 29/4/15

QUOTE (Sparxy @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 18:21) *
QUOTE (RD400E @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 18:03) *
QUOTE (Gan @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 16:08) *
The vehicle makes numerous unplanned journeys every day and it is impossible to confirm its location at a specific time two months ago.

It was not involved in an accident at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion.


That's a bit obscure!



Would a better way of phrasing it be

"To my knowledge the vehicle has not been involved in an accident, at the alleged time and place, or on any other occasion"

?


thanks
QUOTE (666 @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 19:54) *
Is the vehicle a hackney carriage or a private hire car?

If the former, the journeys may be unplanned but are they really unrecorded? Aren't there at least cash records which could jog the driver's memory?

its private hire, the taxi firm i work for has confirmed i was working that day, but my last job was about an hour before the time of the alleged offence
peterguk
Who is the RK of the taxi?
dieseldo
QUOTE (peterguk @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 21:13) *
Who is the RK of the taxi?

It was rented from a garage that specialises in private hire car rental
peterguk
QUOTE (dieseldo @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 22:37) *
QUOTE (peterguk @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 21:13) *
Who is the RK of the taxi?

It was rented from a garage that specialises in private hire car rental


Well then what date you received your NIP is irrelephant. Only the first NIP to the RK has to be served within 14 days.
Logician
QUOTE (dieseldo @ Tue, 12 May 2015 - 21:02) *
its private hire, the taxi firm i work for has confirmed i was working that day, but my last job was about an hour before the time of the alleged offence


Could you have been on your way home from that job, would that have taken you through that location?

millwallgaz
Dieseldo,

lots of specific and helpful advice on here for your particular situation.

I received an NIP listing the same potential offences that they were contemplating charging me with following a very minor coming together on a roundabout last year (following which the other driver didn't stop). With three points already on my licence for speeding I thought the world was going to fall on my head.

Having come on here for help and doing wider research I came to realise that the fail to stop, undue care and attention and fail to report charges are routinely listed for many events where they primarily want to obtain driver details. Sometimes just because they have had a third party complaint.

In my case I provided my details confirming I was driver and about 3 weeks later they confirmed that no further action would be taken. I never heard from the third party at all.

Potentially reassuring for you dependant on your specific circumstances.
dieseldo
QUOTE (millwallgaz @ Wed, 13 May 2015 - 09:22) *
Dieseldo,

lots of specific and helpful advice on here for your particular situation.

I received an NIP listing the same potential offences that they were contemplating charging me with following a very minor coming together on a roundabout last year (following which the other driver didn't stop). With three points already on my licence for speeding I thought the world was going to fall on my head.

Having come on here for help and doing wider research I came to realise that the fail to stop, undue care and attention and fail to report charges are routinely listed for many events where they primarily want to obtain driver details. Sometimes just because they have had a third party complaint.

In my case I provided my details confirming I was driver and about 3 weeks later they confirmed that no further action would be taken. I never heard from the third party at all.

Potentially reassuring for you dependant on your specific circumstances.

thanks for your reassurance, fingers crossed i get a similar result
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