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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - September 2013
Date of the NIP: - 2 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Leeds
Was the NIP addressed to you? -
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? -
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was actually going 38mph in a 30mph, big wide road saturday am, reluctantly taking partner to work.

The fine is addressed to Anna Louise, my first and middle name. No mention of my last name. My full details and last name are registered to the car, so why only 1st and middle name. This happened with a parking ticket also. do i have any room for contesting?

Its so steep what they charge.

Any advice please

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 22:38:38 +0000
Is it really from Leeds City Council? Not West Yorkshire Police?

I'd suggest your car is incorrectly registered. Have you checked your log book?
kirkstall road by any chance?
QUOTE (Bateman33 @ Thu, 10 Oct 2013 - 23:38) *
The fine is addressed to Anna Louise

I presume you haven't received any fine yet?

You should have received an NIP and S.172 asking for driver details at time of the offence.
For 38 in a 30 you should be offered a speed awareness course. This is about the same cost as th fine, but does not put points on your licence, but you do have to attend the course.

The name issue will not help you, and is most likely the name that appears on the log book.
OP claims the car is registered correctly.

If so, and the OP did nothing, presumably Anna Louise would end up with six points, a fine, and a revoked ghost licence (which would sit there forever).

If the car is registered correctly to Anna Louise Smith it could be argued that a NIP has not been served correctly within fourteen days. Which possibly leads to the issue should the OP (correctly) name the driver?

I would have more confidence in the registration details being correct if this was a one-off event. The fact that a parking ticket also had the same issue points to th vehicle details being incorrect.

Should be easy enough for the OP to check before making any potentially expensive decisions.
I find it hard to believe that Leeds City Council are prosecuting speeding offences.
The op know the forms are for her as this has happened before. A failure to furnish will be almost impossible to defend based on this. As this will be a SAC I suggest she simply names herself and checks her reg docs.
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Leeds

Vague locus? rolleyes.gif

Or maybe all the information given isn't the most reliable...
The Rookie
As it says Leeds council, the accuracy of everything else has to be in doubt until the OP has confirmed it ALL!
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