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mbap
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - August 2012
Date of the NIP: - 25 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 26 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M4 Nr Tolls Plaza Roigiet Monmouthshire (Westbound)
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Girlfriends car
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Driving my girlfriends car back to Wales. Missed the 50mph sign as you approach the toll booths after crossing the Severn Bridge. Mobile camera van on one of the bridges crossing the M4.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - No
As you were not responsible for the vehicle, somebody else has named you as the driver. Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - Wales

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:11:29 +0000
mbap
Hello to all in this forum! I am looking for any advice following a NIP for speeding on the M4 on the approach to the tolls (NIP wizard results above). Any advice on what to do next?
Jlc
What sort of advice? Just what to do to follow the system or do you doubt the measurement/process etc?

I presume your girlfriend received the first NIP within 14 days and has named you?

That speed should see a normal fixed penalty offer (3 points/£60) - too fast for a course.
BaggieBoy
This is well known spot. The signs are there for the limit change and even have advance warning signs. There used to be an issue with the Traffic Regulation Order for the limit, but as far as I know it was corrected some time ago.
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