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chrissy_j
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - May 2012
Date of the NIP: - 3 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A13 Alfreds Way near Saxham Rd E/B IG11 (10007)
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was captured at 6am returning from a night duty on a sunday morning. No other cars on the road. Also caputured at exact same time, 24 hours previously and was sent TWO NIP's at same time, from 59 in a 50 and the second was for 61 in a 50. I guess average speed cameras on A13 have finally been switched on

If I send both NIP's in same envelope, it that likely to help or hinder me?


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:29:46 +0000
Kickaha
You will probably be offered a speed awareness course for one of the offences, which costs more than the fine but it saves you getting points.

The normal advice is (if you want the course to be offered) do not do anything to confuse or delay the process.
chrissy_j
QUOTE (Kickaha @ Thu, 31 May 2012 - 06:19) *
You will probably be offered a speed awareness course for one of the offences, which costs more than the fine but it saves you getting points.

The normal advice is (if you want the course to be offered) do not do anything to confuse or delay the process.


Thanks for your reply. I take it by that you mean putting both NIPs in same envelope will confuse/delay things?
Kickaha
QUOTE (chrissy_j @ Thu, 31 May 2012 - 21:03) *
QUOTE (Kickaha @ Thu, 31 May 2012 - 06:19) *
You will probably be offered a speed awareness course for one of the offences, which costs more than the fine but it saves you getting points.

The normal advice is (if you want the course to be offered) do not do anything to confuse or delay the process.


Thanks for your reply. I take it by that you mean putting both NIPs in same envelope will confuse/delay things?

It possibly could, I personally would not risk it.
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