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cmathews
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - February 2012
Date of the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 11 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A4 Batheaston Bypass, Bath
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons -

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:16:02 +0000
Aretnap
QUOTE (cmathews @ Thu, 1 Mar 2012 - 14:16) *
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons -

This bit would help?
cmathews
QUOTE (Aretnap @ Thu, 1 Mar 2012 - 14:26) *
QUOTE (cmathews @ Thu, 1 Mar 2012 - 14:16) *
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons -

This bit would help?


Sorry - not much idea, really. Says I was doing 60mph in a 50mph limit and says 'manual detection'.
Does that help?

Logician
Do you accept you were doing that speed? You are likely to be offerred a speed awreness course provided you have not done one in the last three years.
cmathews
QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 1 Mar 2012 - 14:59) *
Do you accept you were doing that speed? You are likely to be offerred a speed awreness course provided you have not done one in the last three years.


Yes, I don't doubt I was doing that speed. Don't think I can be bothered with a speed awareness course, think i'd rather pay the fine and take the points. No loopholes to get out of the fine/points (other than silly course thing), I assume?
mrh3369
Take the course you might just learn something and even if you don't you avoid the points.
Jlc
You can ask for photo's to help you identify the driver (as a ploy to check the 'evidence') but as you accept the speed then there's nothing you can realistically do. They are likely to offer you the course anyway but you can choose to have the points instead. The points may not affect your insurance premium but it's worth checking - especially whether your insurer wants to be notified immediately or at renewal. The course will probably be around £80-£90 instead of the £60 fixed penalty.
jimster
QUOTE (cmathews @ Thu, 1 Mar 2012 - 19:13) *
QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 1 Mar 2012 - 14:59) *
Do you accept you were doing that speed? You are likely to be offerred a speed awreness course provided you have not done one in the last three years.


Yes, I don't doubt I was doing that speed. Don't think I can be bothered with a speed awareness course, think i'd rather pay the fine and take the points. No loopholes to get out of the fine/points (other than silly course thing), I assume?


Your thread is titled "Any way of avoiding this fine/points?"

Take the course if offered and you will avoid the fine and points glare.gif
Logician
Take the course if offered and avoid the points, you do not know what's lurking round the next corner, and over the next three years you might be very glad not to have those points on your licence.
Durzel
Know this one well, got me at the exact same speed (60 in 50) a few years ago.

Things might've changed since then but A&S weren't offering courses for 50mph limits. I even asked to be considered for one in a covering letter.
Logician
A&S are now part of the national scheme, and a lot has changed from a few years ago. Then courses were regarded as experimental and a bit of a concession, now they are very much mainstream.
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