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johnm2006
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - September 2011
Date of the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - East prescot road between Finch lane and Pilch lane, Liverpool
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 5
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I had no knowledge of having committed any offence untill I received (NOIP) Today which states that my vehicle was caught doing 49mph in a 40mph!
I have rang the camera partnership, for more information.
they have told me that the vehicle which "caught me" was parked on the opposite side of the road in a car park, and caught me as I passed in the opposite direction to which the "vehicle" was facing. It seems that they have "taken me from behind" haha.4


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England
- England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:36:27 +0000
The Rookie
Nothing you have said indicates any defence, always worth writing and asking for photo's on the pretext they are 'to help confirm the drivers ID' or similar (not 'proof' or 'evidence') and see if they show anything untoward.

Simon
johnm2006
Thanks for the advice, Il do as you have suggested, and ask for photos. Im sure I would have remembered, dont recall anything that suggested cameras were about? and I am very familiar with the road in question.
johnm2006
I am considering going "not guilty" if I do this! what information from the police should I be asking for regarding calibration certs etc, it seems that the equipment used to "catch me" was a lastec, from the rear window of a van? which I can only assume was pointing at the rear of my vehicle from across a dual carrigeway?
Any info I can get on this matter, and what documents I should be asking for will be greatly appreciated.
mrh3369
Give us a clue as to what grounds you are considering going not guilty on? If you do and get found guilty it will cost you a heap more than what it will now. If you have no grounds to go not guilty( as if seems at the moment) the cheapest result will be the fixed penalty.
southpaw82
QUOTE (johnm2006 @ Thu, 22 Sep 2011 - 17:46) *
I am considering going "not guilty" if I do this! what information from the police should I be asking for regarding calibration certs etc, it seems that the equipment used to "catch me" was a lastec, from the rear window of a van? which I can only assume was pointing at the rear of my vehicle from across a dual carrigeway?
Any info I can get on this matter, and what documents I should be asking for will be greatly appreciated.


The police are unlikely to disclose reams of documents to you that you can not justify having. Neither will a court order disclosure so you can go on a fishing trip. You're not allowed to request every little thing (that's not relevant to your defence) in the hopes that you find something.
nomadros
Any mileage is identifying how off-axis the shot was? I thought there were rules about the angle of attack. I'd ask for a picture to "help identify the driver."
Pancras
QUOTE (nomadros @ Thu, 22 Sep 2011 - 19:57) *
Any mileage is identifying how off-axis the shot was? I thought there were rules about the angle of attack. I'd ask for a picture to "help identify the driver."

There is a 'cosine effect' however any variance in speed as a result of it being taken at an acute angle will actually make your speed appear lower.

It's worth bearing in mind also that you may well now be offered a SAC for this offence.
johnm2006
QUOTE (mrh3369 @ Thu, 22 Sep 2011 - 18:16) *
Give us a clue as to what grounds you are considering going not guilty on? If you do and get found guilty it will cost you a heap more than what it will now. If you have no grounds to go not guilty( as if seems at the moment) the cheapest result will be the fixed penalty.

I do not believe that I was exceeding the limit, could the reading be wrong?

QUOTE (Pancras @ Thu, 22 Sep 2011 - 20:07) *
QUOTE (nomadros @ Thu, 22 Sep 2011 - 19:57) *
Any mileage is identifying how off-axis the shot was? I thought there were rules about the angle of attack. I'd ask for a picture to "help identify the driver."

There is a 'cosine effect' however any variance in speed as a result of it being taken at an acute angle will actually make your speed appear lower.

It's worth bearing in mind also that you may well now be offered a SAC for this offence.

pardon my ignorance, what is a SAC?
BaggieBoy
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