Hi Guys,
I am about to submit my appeals to PATAS and could do with some advice. I will post up the letter I will be sending together with photos. diagrams etc.
A question before I start - Is it worth a personal hearing and if so do they look on things any worse if you request a saturday/
here is the letter etc:
I wish to appeal the above PCN’s on the following grounds:
1) I have never been given an opportunity to see the original video footage despite my request to do so in the original appeals. I believe it is my right to see this but the LBBD have simply stated in the rejection of the formal representation that I have been provided with photos. This is despite on the PCN stating that I could view the video footage on request.
2) The original PCN stated that the alleged offence took place in Wood Lane. There are 4 Bus Lanes in Wood Lane so I believe that the PCN is faulty in not accurately stating the location. I have enclosed a copy of an email reply stating that there are 4 bus lanes from when I requested a copy of the TMO. I only managed to find out the actual place of the alleged offence by driving the route.
3) The Bus Lane where the alleged offence took place has signage stating that the times of operation are Mon – Sat 3pm to 7pm. The copy of the TMO that was supplied to me by Environmental & Enforcement Services states, under schedule 2, that the hours of operation are 4pm to 7pm Mondays to Fridays inclusive. Please be aware that this was originally requested on the 19th January and finally supplied, after a reminder, on the 8th February. I believe that as the signage is incorrect in relation to the TMO it is against regulations. I have enclosed 2 photo’s of the sign, one from the formal representations and the second that has been taken since and shows the sign is now obstructed.
4) The Bus Lane signage and road markings are incorrect and therefore a breach of regulations. The Traffic Signs Manual chapter 5, section 17 gives information about the correct signage and markings for Bus Lanes. I have enclosed a diagram showing the actual layout of the Bus Lane at the point concerned. The points that I would like to raise are;
a) Section 17.8 states: Where a bus lane passes a junction with a major left-turning flow into the side road, the line to diagram 1049 should be replaced with a broken line to diagram 1010 (see figure 17-1). The broken line should commence 30 m in advance of the junction, and have the same width as the bus lane line. It should be accompanied by the advisory direction arrow to diagram 1050 (varied to show a left turn). Detailed dimensions of the permitted variants are shown on the working drawing P 1050 (see para 1.17). At other junctions, the diagram 1049 marking should be terminated approximately 10 m before the junction (or at the junction if the minor road is one-way towards the major road, recommencing beyond the junction in combination with a marking to diagram 1010 (see figure 17-1).
The actual Bus Lane is terminated approx 4.5m from the edge of the left turn (which is a 2 way road). Diagrams 1010 and 1050 (road markings) and diagram 877 (traffic sign) are not present.
b) The side turning, Bushgrove Road, has a left and right turn onto Wood Lane. Upon turning left the Bus Lane starts again. However there is no signage in Bushgrove Road indicating the presence of a Bus Lane. According to the Traffic Signs Manual this should be indicated with diagram 962, showing the presence and direction of the Bus Lane.
May I also point out that since the LBBD website has been changed there is no provision for an online appeal, even though the ‘Do it Online’ page suggests that this should be possible. This also makes it impossible for me to get information relating to the original appeal.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=at...ost&id=8137
TMO link