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akelly
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - March 2011
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A1027 BISHOPTON AVENUE, STOCKTON
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - owner
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I new nothing until the NIP arrived

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Unsure
Do you know who was driving? - Unsure who was driving
- Unsure who was driving

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:45:16 +0000
CuriousOrange
The NIP will give you a location, date and time. You're expected to know who was driving your car then. If you don't tell them, you can end up with six points and a large fine.

Why are you unsure who was driving? If the only reason is because you don't remember possibly committing the alleged offence, then that isn't good enough.

Gan
It's your legal obligation to identify the driver or have a VERY good reason why you can't.

Who has access to the car.
Who was probably where at the time ?
Is the road on the route to somewhere that anyone would be going ?
If both of you were in the car - who normally drives first ? Did you change drivers ? Buy fuel ? Use a phone ?
Who was more likely to be driving at the speed alleged ?
Was anyone else in the car who may remember ?

Ask for any photos "to identify the driver". This doesn't stop the clock.

Bear in mind that failure to name somebody carries about £500 fine, 6 points and future insurance problems so if all else fails make your best guess. It's not an offence to be wrong and if the police have a better photo of, for example, a husband/wife in the car they will ask you to reconsider.

Makes you wonder why they don't send decent quality pictures with the NIP and stop wasting everybody's time with this charade.



redloner
What's the alleged offence and how was it detected?
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