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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - February 2011
Date of the NIP: - 19 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 20 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A56 Bury New Road, North of New Hall Road, Salford
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - I own it, I don't think that the V5 has been sent to Swansea
How many current points do you have? - 6
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - 04.56 am, running late to pick someone up to drive to London

42 in 30

Any legal way out?

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:16:41 +0000
No late NIP defence by the sound of things.

You could write asking for any available photographs to assist in identifying the driver, making no mention of proof or evidence which you are not entitled to at this stage. Most forces will send these or direct you to a website. Then you should be able to confirm it was your car. If you wash off the details and post it up here following the directions in the FAQs, people will be able to tell you if it is a clean ping and calculate the speed if it is a GATSO.

This does not stop the time running on the 28 days you have to respond. Failing to identify the driver is a much more serious offence than speeding, so do not risk that.

There is some hope that with the new wider criteria for speed awareness courses, you might be offered one.
much appreciated, thanks
QUOTE (boltondiver @ Wed, 9 Mar 2011 - 21:16) *
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - I own it, I don't think that the V5 has been sent to Swansea

Can you confirm this for sure. Check the Document Reference date on the V5. If it is after the offence date then there is no 'Late NIP' defence.
I am going to call DVLC tomorrow

The Rookie
No need to ring DVLA, just look at your V5, the docref date is on there.

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