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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2010
Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A625 Ecclesall Road South, near Ringinglow Road, Sheffield
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - In the flow of the traffic, not that it matters, car clearly crept up to 35mph, and I got flashed. Never been caught for speeding before, have zero points on licence. I'll send the NIP back in a couple of weeks or so. Reading the interweb suggests I might get invited on one of the speed awareness courses if they still do them? I went back to the same location on Friday as I didn't recall seeing the signs dropping the limit down to 30 from 40. Both are there, the one of the left hand side of the road is under a tree and is 'slightly' green with mould, but is still clear. The way I see it, it's one of those things. It doesn't do the police any favours given the speed involved, but there you go. If I don't get offered a course, I'll consider the option of fighting the case.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:24:15 +0000
Yes, you should get offered a SAC, if not ask why not. A slight amount of green mould on one of the signs is not likely to get you off, I'm afraid, if it does go to court. The result of that would simply be a higher fine than the fixed penalty plus costs.
35 in a 30 if it is your 1st offence then you are very likely to be offered a speed awareness course.
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