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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2010
Date of the NIP: - 2 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 3 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A4040 Harborne Lane bet Gibbons Rd & Quinton Rd, Birmingham
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The weather on the day in question was good. Driving conditions were also good. The road in question is a dual carriageway but in a built up area. I’m unsure as to where the offence took place but I’m assuming it was whilst I was driving along the outside lane of the dual carriageway. Upon approaching the dual carriageway I did notice a small police van, one that could be used for recording speed, about 4/5 cars in front of me. It was in the inside lane whilst stationary at lights however as it was a dual carriage way I was able to take to the outside lane and overtake. Not sure of the speed I was doing but I accelerated past the stationary traffic allowing me to move forward at the front as the lights turned green as I approached. I’m assuming it was a mobile speed camera that captured my offence as there are no fixed speed cameras along the road in question. I did not see any other police vehicles along the route although that is not to say there wasn’t one there.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:50:53 +0000
Pete D
I’m unsure as to where the offence took place, how about "Harborne Lane between Gibbons Rd & Quinton Rd." A mobile van needs to be parked up to operate so the one at the lights is not relevant. Deos the NIP mention Automatic or Manned device. Either way you would be wise to write to them asd ask for any copies of photos to help you identify the drive. NO NOT mention proof or evidence as you are not entitled to at this point. Do not elaborate just keep it simple. They do not have to send them but usually do. This does not stop the 28 day closk for returning the nip but the photo's should be with you in a week and you can see where you were and the quality of the ping. You can wash off the ID and reg and post them in your thread using the instructions in the read me first section if you need help from the forum. Pete D
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