NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - December 2009
Date of the NIP: - 32 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 36 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - pottery lane southbound,jnct hyde road,manchester
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - company vehicle
How many current points do you have? - 9
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - doing 38 in a 30 the road in question is a dual carriage way (ring road ) so assumed it was 40 as other parts are, however when ive gone back to check there are markings on the road that say 30


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Unsure
Do you know who was driving? - Unsure who was driving

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

• If you can show that after reasonable diligence you have been unable to determine the identity of the driver, you will not be guilty of S172 failure to provide.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:38:07 +0000

No, you are in the territory of a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty which will be £60 and 3 points on your license.

How long have you held a full license for ?

OP has 9 points

Are they active?

Have any of your 9 points expired?

You might get lucky and get an offer of a speed awareness course, in liew of points.

It may be worth doing some work now on the legality of the 30 limit.

Ask the council for a copy of any TRO for the road (one will be required for the 40 limits, the part were you were caught may have been a 40 at some point in which case another TRO would have been needed to make it back to a 30), they often contain errors.

Simon

3 of the points are due to come of in nov 2010,the other offences were 2008,what will happen if i dont send back the s172 notice as im not 100% sure if i were driving the vehicle,but i dont think i could prove it.as it usually is only driven by me.

can i ask for a speed awareness course or is down to there discretion?

thanks

If you don't return it, you will earn 6 points and the accompanying consequences, together wih a hefty fine.

Who else might have been driving? You know the date, time, location and direction.... What efforts have you made to determine who might have been driving?

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Perverting the course of justice will see you in prison!

There is every likelihood of being offered a speed awareness workshop.

I believe this is a totting up matter. The 9 points were active at time of offence. You'll have to go to court, local to the offence and plead exceptional hardship to retain your license. If you can't get this plea accepted and there is no offer of an awareness course, its a six month ban.