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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - August 2009
Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Clewer Hill Road Windsor
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I wasn't there!
I was driving through Datchet at the time, and I did indeed go a little bit too fast (35mph) through a speed camera. Everything about the NIP is correct apart from the location of the camera, which is several miles away

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:15:35 +0100
several miles away from where ? where you thought you were flashed or from where youd been that day ?
I am Weasel
QUOTE (jobo @ Wed, 2 Sep 2009 - 18:23) *
several miles away from where ? where you thought you were flashed or from where youd been that day ?

The OP said they were driving through Datchet at the time of the alleged incident which is a village a mile or so to the East of Windsor and probaly 4-5 minutes drive away (although could be 10-15 at certain times of day) from the location stated on the NIP

It would be worth asking for photos "to assist in identifying the driver" and checking the background of the image which should be identifiably different between the two locations
The camera on the NIP was a few miles away, in a road I have never driven down, that day or any other.
I was driving past a camera in Datchet at the time of the 'alleged offence', so there is every possibility that I was caught by that camera.
My question is whether having the wrong camera on the NIP would 'get me off on a technicality', or whether the police would just say that they'd got their films mixed up but it was a fair cop as they had the photograph.
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