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Sick as a Parrot
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - June 2009
Date of the NIP: - 9 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 11 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A31 Bentley, (NR Bull Public house) Hampshire
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Exceeding 70 mph limit on a dual carriageway, S89 (1) RTRA 84 Sch2 RTOA 88

"Recorded Speed" 102mph supported by video&/or photographic evidence (Camera van)

Deserted Sunday morning dual carriageway country road at 11am. I believe I was doing less than the speed alleged. I have three points from Jan 08. I obviously don't want to live on the edge with 9 points for the next 18 months...but another 6 points looks inevitable (what else both a ban and or a fine?) Is there any point trying to get them to prove the reading was accurate and over 100mph. Any point checking procedural compliance etc? Will hiring legal representation exacerbate the situation from a sentencing perspective? What is Hampshire's track record like?

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:26:26 +0100
short ban is quite( very ) likely, of say a week or 4 ?

in which case no points will be awarded

write and ask for pics to help id the driver, not evidence or proof , this will show if its a clean ping or not

Sick as a Parrot
Thank you for responding. I have seen quite a few posts relating to this exact same location on the A31 near the Bull Pub and wondered if anyone out there had any direct experience of dealing with or challenging a NIP from Hampshire. I am looking for advice as to whether it is even worth bothering challenging the accuracy and whether the Winchester Magistrates are more inclined to give a disqualification or points or can they do both?
no mate its one or the other, just over a ton isnt the worst you could ust get 5 points, or a week ban, which would you prefere, bans are exspensiv on the insurance front

you need something to challege with, have you asked for the picies yet

otherwise you be best advised to work on mitigation, exceptional hardship to reduce the damage

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