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Buellxb12r
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - May 2009
Date of the NIP: - 9 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A32, WARNFORD ROAD, CORHAMPTON, HAMPSHIRE
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Travelling along the above road, with my son as pillion. Camera van on the opposite side of the road. I was unaware of any signs indicating the presence of the van. I believe the speed reading to be inaccurate.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 28 May 2009 23:48:12 +0100
The Rookie
There is no requirement for warning signs of a Camera.

I would always advocate
1/ Writing and ask for "photo's to help ID the driver" or similar, it may highlight a problem, at worst you get a souvenir (don't ask for ‘evidence’ or ‘proof’).
2/ Reply to confirm who was driving and giving all the info they want in a letter (inc ref numbers and within the permitted 28 days from receipt of the request) so they can't use image recognition software on your form and have to work for a living!

The scammers are all on fixed budgets now, so the more work they have to put in to ‘do’ each ‘customer’ the less ‘customers’ they can ‘do’!

Simon
Buellxb12r
Thanks Simon,

just to clarify, write to the Hampshire constabulary unit asking for help in id'ing the driver you mean. Also, any idea on the ruling of offering a sac instead of points, or is that discressionary?
BaggieBoy
That would depend on the speed and limit in force at the time, neither of which you have stated.
nemo
QUOTE (Buellxb12r @ Fri, 29 May 2009 - 19:09) *
Also, any idea on the ruling of offering a sac instead of points, or is that discressionary?

It is discretionary.

And I believe that Hampshire's invitation criteria are in line with the National Guidelines ie up to a maximum of 10% plus 6 mph in excess of the posted limit, no similar course undertaken in the past 3 years, etc. What I am unclear of is the specific speed limit zones within which Hants. will offer such courses.
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