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neilpercy
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - April 2009
Date of the NIP: - 9 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A1094, Snape
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 6
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Driving on the A1094 from Aldeburgh towards the A12 at a moderate speed (for me!) on what I presumed was a country road - didn't rerally think about the speed, certainly didn't think it was a 30mph limit!

Rounded a bend to see a Safety Camera Pertnership van with rear doors poointing towards me. Slowed down when I saw them.


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:02:03 +0100

Re: ABOVE

The Suffolk constabulary seem to have covered all escape clauses/loopholes in an accompanying leaflet.

I'm just hoping that as the speed is only marginally above any tolerance errors (10%+?mph ??) I will get offered the chance of a Speed awareness course.

I will ask for one with an additional letter. My sister did this, and even though it wasn't offered to her on paper she was awarded a course (Met Police)


cheers


neil
nemo
QUOTE (neilpercy @ Thu, 28 May 2009 - 21:07) *
I'm just hoping that as the speed is only marginally above any tolerance errors (10%+?mph ??) I will get offered the chance of a Speed awareness course.

You may well receive the offer of a speed awareness course - AFAIK, Suffolk's criteria for the offer of such is no more than 10% plus 6mph in excess of a 30mph limit.
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