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Some interesting threads posted on this site....

I'd like to add my views and hopefully won't be banned/shot down in flames

Many people come on this site looking to avoid paying a charge they have received, but often openly admit their contravention.

Nobody likes to receive a ticket, and private sector traffic wardens take their power to issue parking charge notices very seriously - they will not issue one unless it is really necessary.

In the spirit of our great motoring nation, all tickets - whether from the council or from independent enforcement agencies should be treated the same.






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RD400E
Now that's funny biggrin.gif
17handicap
You may not be banned - the mods here are quite tolerant, I think .... shot down in flames - absolutely no question!!

The issue of these "fines" are quite indefencible no matter how seriously some cretin with a book of tickets takes his job. The harrassment of innocent members of the public, some quite unable to defend themselves, is often illegal, certainly immoral and without doubt a scam that should be banned.

I don't think anyone here condones parking on private land where the owner doesn't wish to have people park, but this scamming approach to dealing with the problem is why this site exists and hopefully, eventually, everyone will never pay these scamsters and they, and there hard working attendants, will all get proper jobs!

Only my opinion mind!
buttonpusher
Of course they take it seriously, without issuing loads of invoices you would be out of a job, tout suite. Its not about getting parking fees its conning the unaware out of outrageous fees for spurious reasons.
whitewing
QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:19) *
Some interesting threads posted on this site....

I'd like to add my views and hopefully won't be banned/shot down in flames

Many people come on this site looking to avoid paying a charge they have received, but often openly admit their contravention.

but rightly object to attempts at conning them out of money they do not legally owe by the criminal parasite scammers masquerading as legitimate enforcement agencies.
QUOTE
Nobody likes to receive a ticket, and private sector traffic wardens take their power to issue parking charge notices very seriously - they will not issue one unless it is really necessary.

What planet are you on? PPC scammers only care about making money - it's the only way they can survive, so they will invariably issue as much fraudulent paperwork as they can print in order to trick money out of gullible victims.
QUOTE
In the spirit of our great motoring nation, all tickets - whether from the council or from independent enforcement agencies should be treated the same.

Why? Councils undoubtedly take the piss but unfortunately they have legal backing, but should still be challenged at every opportunity. PPC scammers don't, and deserve to be treated with the respect they deserve. i.e. absolutely none, so why should anyone waste time dealing with them?

The only way PPCs can make a living is by FAILING to solve the problem they are supposedly engaged to solve. It's only a matter of time before landowners wake up to this
Alexis
Don't give this nutjob the time of day. He's already buggered up CAG in just 6 posts!
ManxRed
If tickets are issued within the confines of the law/regulations then I don't think anyone here has a problem.

If a CEO issues a ticket that does not conform to the regulations, or at a place that is incorrectly signed/marked, and the council involved know this and are actually conning the driver then that is a different matter.

If a PPC issues paperwork that conforms to the law and their case is correct then fine. Not many are though, let's be fair here.
Geek Girl
6 posts? That could be some kind of record for a troll ...
bama
"contravention" ROTFLMFAO !!

I don't do CAG (nor recommend it) but may give it a gander for this, sounds like a few laughs could be had.

perfect for a Friday.
Teufel
private sector traffic warden = a criminal breaking the law by impersonating a peosn with police powers

they have no powers to takeseriously or otherwise
dave-o
What is a private sector traffic warden? No such thing. I could call myself a "private sector ninja with rocket launchers" and it would be no less true.

QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:19) *
private sector traffic wardens take their power to issue parking charge notices very seriously - they will not issue one unless it is really necessary.


And if you believe that then you are either stupid or you have just started your job today.
17handicap
Dave .... you really are a "private sector ninja with rocket launchers" -- arn't you?
dave-o
I "may" be.
Neil B
QUOTE (Alexis @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 13:03) *
 He's already buggered up CAG in just 6 posts!


Oh Good!! laugh.gif well done that man.
buttonpusher
He's now found MSE, should be at home with some there.
Wayne's Enforcement
You all would do well to respect the samaritans who carry out the thankless day-to-day task of controlling parking on what is private land.

Registered keepers will soon be liable for tickets issued by CIEOs(Civil Independent Enforcement Officers)

You have been warned.
bama
Wayne's world.

I finally get it !
andy_foster
QUOTE (17handicap @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:42) *
You may not be banned - the mods here are quite tolerant, I think ....


Tolerant of proper discussions, yes. Tolerant of advising a poster with an unenforceable private ticket that his best bet is to pay up, not so much.
Neil B
QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 19:22) *
You all would do well to respect the samaritans who carry out the thankless day-to-day task of controlling parking on what is private land.

Registered keepers will soon be liable for tickets issued by CIEOs(Civil Independent Enforcement Officers)

You have been warned.


Excellent mate! biggrin.gif How many gigs have you done? Done the gong yet? Comedy store on a wednesday?




'it's all part of the master plan to collapse the economy by discouraging anyone from visiting retail parks, pubs and supermarkets.'



dave-o
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 19:40) *
'it's all part of the master plan to collapse the economy by discouraging anyone from visiting retail parks, pubs and supermarkets.'



Now that is definitely a plan that will see us out of these dark economic times.
axeman
QUOTE (Alexis @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 13:03) *
Don't give this nutjob the time of day. He's already buggered up CAG in just 6 posts!


He just put Senokot out of business, I laughed so hard......almost shat myself.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
RD400E
QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:19) *
I'd like to add my views and hopefully won't be banned/shot down in flames


I can't see you being banned for expressing an opinion but....

QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:19) *
Many people come on this site looking to avoid paying a charge they have received, but often openly admit their contravention.


It's not about avoiding paying but moreover it's about using the law in favour of those who have been treated unfairly in the exact terms of the law!

QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:19) *
Nobody likes to receive a ticket, and private sector traffic wardens take their power to issue parking charge notices very seriously - they will not issue one unless it is really necessary.


For your information, Traffic wardens are not part of the private parking companies remit. You may have some poor old sod wandering around a supermarket car park but he has no more clout than I asking you for £60 to respond to this reply!!!


QUOTE (Wayne's Enforcement @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 12:19) *
In the spirit of our great motoring nation, all tickets - whether from the council or from independent enforcement agencies should be treated the same.


Sorry but i need to be sick, did you pluck that off the internet somewhere ? I gotta say your use of the word enforcement needs a fair bit of education!
Neil B
RD - come on mate - have you not fallen in yet? biggrin.gif
bama
being treated the same as real PCNs is the PPCs wet dream and something the BPA would love to see happen - well its PPC members would. You can guarantee they are trying what they can behind the scenes to move in this direction and promote the concept to Government - and if you can't guarantee it then I can smile.gif.

In case most people are not familiar with the 2007 '5 year strategy' I will paste it below. It was made available to me by some kind anonymous soul and I have no reason to doubt its contents.

two things:-
1) its moved on since and includes the wet dream scenario
2) I will not be held responsible for damages to keyboards and computer equipment, wallpaper, furnishings, carpeting etc due to the effects of ejected food/coffee/any other materials/ or through induced violent tendancies/psychotic episodes or any other effects.

bearing all that in mind read away (at your own risk):-


STRATEGIC PLAN
At its meeting on 7 June 2007, the Council of the BPA approved the following as the new 5
year strategy for the Association.
VISION
That the BPA consolidates its position as the recognised leading authority on parking and
related issues, seeking to better serve the needs of members and the consumer by:
• Setting and raising standards further;
• Supporting the needs of the consumer;
• Developing its regulatory role;
• Expanding the range of member services.
As the mark of quality the BPA will, over the
next five years:
• Champion the cause of the industry and
those that work within it;
• Improve the recognition and profile of
parking and related matters with policy
makers and the public;
• Improve public understanding and
acceptance of parking issues;
• Improve the performance and
professionalism of the industry;
• Develop the skills agenda;
• Improve the services it provides to its
members.
VIRTUOUS CIRCLE
The concept of a virtuous circle is now fully understood. It is particularly appropriate in
relation to the new strategy, for whilst separate activities all four functions covering
standards, consumer engagement, regulatory role and membership services are fully
interconnected.
STANDARDS
Raising standards is engrained in everything we do from the skills strategy we launched in
April 2007 to the technical developments in parking. By raising standards in the sector we
can improve its performance and output and hopefully its profitability. This is the key role
for the Association over the next five years and one which will distinguish our members
more clearly from the rest. The BPA will, therefore:
• raise standards in the Industry, including setting relevant and appropriate
specifications for equipment and software employed;
• raise the education, training and skill levels of the workforce generally;
• implement the skills strategy;
• monitor European and worldwide developments and contribute to the
provision of international standards as appropriate.
CONSUMER
The Association has, over the past few years had an uneasy relationship with the
consumer and bodies purporting to represent the consumer. Parking has generally had
a negative media profile which we have sought to counter with positive arguments
and stories. Nevertheless, newspapers and the media thrive on the negative and we are
seen, as an industry, as an easy target. Over the next five years we need to improve our
media image and the perception we have with the public by re-educating the consumer
about the need for and value of effective parking policies, regulation and enforcement.
After all, our on-street activities are based on decisions by Government.We are today an
essential public service which, in line with the Government’s new regulations and guidance,
needs to be implemented fairly. As a result, the BPA will engage with the consumer
through consumer bodies and will:
• raise the understanding, acceptability and recognition of parking issues externally;
• educate the motorist on parking issues and the introduction of CPE;
• not support unfair, illegitimate or unethical parking policies or practices.
REGULATORY ROLE
Over the past few years the Association has begun to develop its regulatory role in a selfregulatory
way. As a body of members we are able to set standards of performance and
introduce codes of practice to distinguish our members from the rest. We have an overall
code of conduct which all members must sign up to and have developed two parts of
a Code of Practice for those that wheel clamp (or undertake vehicle immobilisation)
and “ticket” on private land. Such codes, whilst voluntary, do impose obligations and
responsibilities on members and the BPA. We, for example, must ensure that members
adhere to the rules if we are to maintain our credibility and compliance monitoring is a
growing responsibility we must take very seriously. In fact, our accredited status with
the DVLA depends on it. Accordingly, over the next five years the BPA will:
• expand its role as a self-regulating body in parking and related areas;
• develop accreditation schemes to support industry’s advancement;
• develop the model contract and model forms for use by LAs in respect of CPE.
MEMBER SERVICES
As a body of members we constantly seek ways of improving the services we offer and
the value of being part of the BPA. Benefits come in two distinct forms. There are those
that are tangible that members can see, use and touch, and those that are intangible that
help to improve the industry as a whole and as a result, members indirectly. We will
continue to increase the scope of both. While each member will get out of the BPA
what it wants, we must recognise that with a growing membership, these needs will vary
and change. The concept of special interest groups to meet the specialist needs of some
members will be expanded and the regional groups strengthened. Consequently the BPA
will:
• extend both the direct and indirect services to members including the
recognition of the BPA externally, in order to improve the value of membership;
• underpin the strategy by an expanded membership;
• achieve a higher profile outside parking in order to improve the status of members
within it;
• extend the concept of Special Interest Groups (SIG);
• ensure that it maintains a sound and secure financial position and a well
resourced secretariat, able to meet the needs of an expanding organisation;
• purchase premises fit for purpose.
IMPLEMENTATION
Implementation of the strategy will be through the process of annual action plans
linked to the four key functional areas. It is implicit in this paper that although the
strategy is primarily about consolidating our position, the Association will seek
opportunities to expand its role where relevant, monitor the changes within the
industry and in related industries, and seek to be a modern, dynamic and progressive body
supporting its wider role to Society.
In particular, while the Association will continue to concentrate on all aspects of its
core business of ‘parking’, it will also seek opportunities to become more involved in
the wider civil enforcement arena but limit its focus to traffic and street scene issues.
July 2007
RD400E
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 - 20:44) *
RD - come on mate - have you not fallen in yet? biggrin.gif



Of course I have Neil, but I do like a nice juicy troll to vent my spleen upon laugh.gif
southpaw82
Id' like to extend my thanks to "Wayne" for the laugh. Cheers.
Honest Brian
I despair I really do. When will the mesage get through that parking enforcement on private land is a serious business with serious conequences for those who ignore their tickets.
Glacier2
No serious consequences except to the environment caused by all the letters sent from PPCs and their fake DCAs.

Private parking enforcement is a joke.

When is your next gig? Let me know when you are down in the south west.
Fredd
HB is Wayne's reincarnation. Also banned.
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