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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - January 2009
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A58 HALIFAX ROAD, LITTLEBOROUGH
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - A58 Halifax Road from Littleborough towards Ripponden is about 4 miles long with short 30mph stretch, then 40, becoming 60 as road climbs towards the moors. No fixed cameras so it must have been a mobile but I didn't see one and have no idea where it might have been. I was following a lorry uphill and didn't think either vehicle was travelling very fast but was alleged to be doing 42 in a 30. Haven't done anything about the NIP yet.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:06:57 +0000
Pete D
Assuming it was a scamera van then write to them and ask for copies of photo's to help you identify the driver. Do not elaborate or use the words evidence or proof. It that the whole of the lacarion on the NIP. When you get the photo's, wash the ID and your reg off the photo and post it in your thread so others can advise you is there are any errors. The instructions for posting pis are in the FAQ's Pete D
Where was the camera?

god knows, in an old van, a horse box, up sum lane covered in cargo nets

theres half a chance of a vague locus defence, if the road in question is 4 miles long

in the mean time write and ask for pices to help id the driver. nor proof or evidence

then we can see what and maybe where and if its a clean ping

dont neglect to return the 172 request in the 28 days
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