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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - November 2008
Date of the NIP: - 25 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 50 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A303 Canegore nr. Yeovil. Somerset.
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - hgv/lgv driver
How many current points do you have? - 6
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I exceeded speed limit for goods vehicle over 7.5 tonnes (auto detect) 50 mph recorded speed 40 mph maximum

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:41:10 +0000
Was this a GATSO as you say "auto detect"? If so more and more of them are unfortunately being set to catch HGVs as well as cars etc. Only advice regarding GATSOs/Truvelos is to be sure in future to stick to the vehicle speed limit for the particular road when in the vicinity of these scamming devices. No template letters available but you could write and ask for photos that may assist to identify the driver. If nothing else a souvenir to keep.
Hotel Oscar 87
QB - Yes. This is a long time favourite on the western side of Camel Hill a little over a mile west of Sparkford roundabout - been in place for many years and (I can hear the wails of some posters now) one of the very few cameras IMO that actually does what it should and provides protection for traffic using the crossroads a very short distance beyond. Signed S/L is 50mph which sadly was what the OP was doing.

DC - Details are thin but I'm guessing that your employer doesn't like the idea of anyone with more than 6 points? Although you may well be right in anticipating that at the speed alleged that you may get a summons rather than a COFP there is still a chance. Safecam/Avon & Somerset Police use a system of coloured NIP's. If yours is white then you will receive a fixed penalty offer; a green one would indicate eligibility (all other things being equal) for a speed choice course - which I would almost guarantee isn't the colour you've received. Lastly, a blue NIP would indicate that the matter will ultimately be heard at court. Telling us what colour yours is would give us an immediate clue as to the future progress of your case.
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