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steady7777
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - March 2008
Date of the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A 14, Haughley -Eastbound
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I am told I was speeding at 58 mph in a 50mph limit area. I am not in th ehabit of speeding .
I also was using a Road Angel which did not register any speed camera warning


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Sat, 17 May 2008 13:42:44 +0100
Pete D
It sounds as though this was a scamera van so ask for photo's to help identify the drive. Do not elaborate or use the words evidence or proof. Post back when you have the photo's as they may contain an error. you can scan them, wash them of all details except the speed and error messages if any and remove your car reg and post them on here so others can assist you. Pete D
steady7777
QUOTE (Pete D @ Sat, 17 May 2008 - 14:44) *
It sounds as though this was a scamera van so ask for photo's to help identify the drive. Do not elaborate or use the words evidence or proof. Post back when you have the photo's as they may contain an error. you can scan them, wash them of all details except the speed and error messages if any and remove your car reg and post them on here so others can assist you. Pete D


Dear Pete D ,thank you for your helpful letter. The problem is that when I returned the NIP, I admitted being the driver , so I do not think that this can work .
Pete D
You did not state you had returned the NIP, how was I suppost to know. A road angel does flag know scamera sites but not all of them and the randommly parked van. the only was yo avoid NIP is not to speed. Difficult but true. Pete D
Zed Victor One
Due to the fact that this stretch of road accounted for more fatalities in the county than any other, barring the A.140, a 50 mph speed limit was introduced and 2 fixed camera's placed on each carriageway. The vast majority of drivers being fully aware of the positioning of the fixed camera's, the only one's that would show up on a Road Angel, speed up after the first one and then brake/slow down for the second one.
Consequently mobile vans are deployed to enforce the sections of road where due to the geography it's not possible to site fixed camera's. The good news is you will have hopefully noticed road works are currently taking place to straighten this section of the A.14 and hopefully see the re-introduction of the NSL.
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