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Simon Roberts
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - February 2008
Date of the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M6 Cowperthwaite, travelling south (s) SD60797 96359
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Owner
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The car was on loan to my son and his girlfriend. Both were added as temporary insured persons from 14 to 17 of February. At the time of the offence they are not sure which one of them was driving. My son has 3 points on his licence.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - No
Do you know who was driving? - Unsure who was driving

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:58:09 +0000
The Rookie
You were not arguably the keeper at the time of the alleged offence and as there is certainly nothing more you can do to find out who was driving anyway - you have to give information in your power to give. To that end, you should write a letter to the scammers, telling them the car was loaned out to your son (give his details as asked for), that you were not keeping it at the time, you can mention that you don't know if he or his girlfriend (add her name for completeness but no other details) were driving.

He will then recieve his own S172 request and can come on here for some advice on what to do and how to demonstrate reasonable dillignce.

If you want to help them out a bit, leave replying for about 21 days from when you recieved the NIP.

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