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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - November 2007
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A1, Elkesley, Notts (Southbound)
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Cold, wet, Friday evening, little traffic, came round corner of A1 near Worksop, noticed 50mph speed limit and came off accelerator to lose speed, next thing I know first flash occured. Checked RVM, hit brakes, but second flash took place. No idea of actual speed, possibly 65 in a 50mph limit.

Came back north along A1 on Wednesday 12th December to find same camera that got me is now a charred wreck. Clearly someone else as unhappy as me about current speed camera propagation.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:19:30 +0000
Was this in the section that has been 50 for years, or is this in the section thats now a temporary 50 due to the roadworks?
The Rookie
If it was roadworks, was it dark or light?

It wasn't roadworks, and it was night.

I'd never driven this road before, and the sudden drop from NSL to 50 took me by surprise somewhat - there doesn't appear to be any reason for it that I could see.
Well, my conditional offer has come through; allegedly I was doing 63 in a 50mph.

Any advice, aside from pay up?
It was cold, wet and dark on a Friday night. It was a well established 50 limit and you seem to admit you were speeding as per the allegation.

3 Points and £60 would seem reasonable, I'd pay up!
QUOTE (10PenceShort @ Tue, 15 Jan 2008 - 13:06) *
It was cold, wet and dark on a Friday night. It was a well established 50 limit and you seem to admit you were speeding as per the allegation.

3 Points and £60 would seem reasonable, I'd pay up!
The Rookie
One thing to check, where the 50 terminal signs in a correct pair and illuminated (if there is road lighting- I think they are, but its a long time since I was last there!) if not the limit is invalid.

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