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JonF
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - November 2007
Date of the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 8 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A587 St. Walburgas Rd 30mph nr Fulwood Ave (N), Blackpool (A Div) Mobile
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 6
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Don't remember seeing a mobile unit so was suprised to get NIP through post. On the FAQ sheet accompanying the NIP it mentions that sites of cameras/mobile can be viewed at following website: www.safe2travel.co.uk. The site mentioned on my NIP is not shown. Does site have to be shown on website? How do i know if site complies with DfT guidelines and TRO's?

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:23:40 +0000
nemo
QUOTE (JonF @ Mon, 26 Nov 2007 - 20:23) *
On the FAQ sheet accompanying the NIP it mentions that sites of cameras/mobile can be viewed at following website: www.safe2travel.co.uk. The site mentioned on my NIP is not shown.

Its probably Site No. D4003: A587, St Walburgas Road near Tennyson Road - which is more or less opposite Fulwood Avenue and is shown on their website.

QUOTE (JonF @ Mon, 26 Nov 2007 - 20:23) *
Does site have to be shown on website?

No.

QUOTE (JonF @ Mon, 26 Nov 2007 - 20:23) *
How do i know if site complies with DfT guidelines and TRO's?

Any non-compliance with DfT Guidelines has no bearing on the prosecution of an alleged offence detected by the use of a 'safety' camera.
Check with the council for details of the relevant TRO.
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