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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - September 2007
Date of the NIP: - 9 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 15 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A140 Mile End Road Norwich, towards Earlham
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 6
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was the driver I was speeding.

The NIP was late due to the post strike. Sent on the day it started, arrived the day it finished.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

    We have an Article that describes what is likely to happen when you respond to the S172 notice in more detail.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.1: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:20:49 +0100
From reading other posts, I have a plan to respond to this with the information that the NIP was out of time.

The dates are pretty fixed because the issue date on the NIP was the day the strike started (4th October) and I got it back the first day they went to work (10th October). I could not have recieved it on the 14th day because there was no post. Date of alleged offence 25th September. I have printed internet reports of the strike.

My question is whether to respond with a letter as I return the NIP, or wait and see if I get a course offer which I would probbaly take?

The Rookie
Despite the strikes your responce needs to be aimed at maintaining credability, so reply with teh RAC letter (linked to if you change unsure to no in the Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? question) and stapled to the filled in S172 form on the NIP.

To clarify, you are the reg keeper, you have not moved or bought the car recently?

Thanks for posting.

Yes its mine, no doubt. Car 6 months since bought.

The advice then is to return an RAC style letter plus supporting evidence with NIP, because this provides credibility.

Thanks again.
The Rookie
Just send the letter stapled to the completed driver nomination form, keep the evidence.

OK, thanks.
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