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rzia
mellow.gif I have been driving for the last 17 years and have never speeded (okay may have however never been caught on camera) and my father has been driving all his life and he has never had any speeding offences either. I was sent a letter yesterday stating that the camera has caught my car doing 39mph in a 30 mph road at 2am in the morning in east london ( i had gone to the fruit and veg market). Part of the way my father drove and part of the way I drove. I filled the form with both our names and details. We dont know how to appeal and whether an appeal will make any difference? What will be your advice as i definitely do not want to pay a fine for going over limit by 9mph

Can anyone tell me the fine please in this case?

NIP WIZARD RESPONSE
The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.
andy_foster
Please visit the READ ME FIRST section (Click Here), answer all the questions in the NIP Wizard, and then post the Wizard's output back here to enable us to help you.
rzia
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Metropolitan Police
Date of the offence: - September 2007
Date of the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 20 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - BOW ROAD E3 OPPOSITE HARLEY GROVE
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I have been driving for the last 17 years and have never speeded and my father has been driving all his life and he has never had any speeding offences either. I was sent a letter yesterday stating that the camera has caught my car doing 39mph in a 30 mph road at 2am in the morning in east london ( i had gone to the fruit and veg market). Part of the way my father drove and part of the way I drove. I filled the form with both our names and details. We dont know how to appeal and whether an appeal will make any difference? What will be your advice as i definitely do not want to pay a fine for going over limit by 9mph

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.0: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:40:40 +0100
andy_foster
Can you perhaps clarify any of the following? By the way, 'were you driving?' means 'were you driving at the material time?', not 'have you ever driven a motor car?'

QUOTE (rzia @ Mon, 8 Oct 2007 - 22:40) *
Date of the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 20 days after the offence

Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Unsure
Were you driving? - Yes
The Rookie
QUOTE (rzia @ Mon, 8 Oct 2007 - 22:34) *
I have been driving for the last 17 years and have never speeded


Witthout being rude, I'm willing to bet thats simply not true, nor is it probably possible!

If you can't name the driver you need to be able to prove you have used reasonable dillignce in trying to do so and are still not able to do so, you need to tell the scammers the why's and what's in a letter (which becomes evidence), if you are convicted of failure to furnish its 6pts/£300 (ish) fine.

Simon
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