NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Staffordshire
Date of the offence: - December 2006
Date of the NIP: - 1 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 3 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A34 Tittensor between Chase lane & Stoke Boundary (871) St
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 7
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Been driving up that road for 19 years, at the top of the hill there is a old brick built bus shelter the lamp post after it used to hold a NSL sign which always got covered by the trees, but you knew it was there and you could go back to 60mph. Then the monkey island opened. The NSL sign was removed and no other signage to state the road is now a 40mph was erected. I started down the hill towards the Island and just as you go round a sligh bend in the road, i saw the white van, immediately took foot off pedal glanced down at speedo and it read 62 looked at my sat nav and that send 59mph so applied slight pressure to pedal and thought i am fine. Until i got this NIP in the post, first stating i was doing 69mph then i noticed it was in a 40mph zone, WHAT, when did that happen. So i have been back to road, looked for repeater signs, there was two circular ones first one on the left just up from the Static camera and the other down the hill about 4 lamp post from Monkey Island, in Feb. I then went back in July 07 to take photos and all the repeater signs have been updated and three new one erected, two in the centre reservations and one in front of the Island sign. They were not there in Feb 07. I knew the location of the original repeaters and they are illegal placed apart on a stretch of road 1200m long the first repeater should be 250m it was 480m and the second repeater from the first should be 500m it was 650m, but the new ones arent they are 350m apart if they zig zag along the road one on the left then the right and so on. Has anyone got any memory of this circular repeaters with 40 in the middle of them, as the new ones now have a camera sign and 40 sign in one, on a white board. Photos would help tremedously. Because it is stated in the Traffic Sign Regulations and General Directions 2002, which the Council / Highways dept should follow to the T otherwise it is not inforced, and guess what i phoned the highways to ask what date they updated the repeaters and they said they havent they have been there from day one, no they werent. Spoke to four people including the original contractor and they all say the same, this is a cover up. Any help from anywhere would be much appreciated. I have also studied the video evidence and i have gone and measured the lines and gaps in the road and done my own - distance = time x speed sums and i get closer to 62 than 69 that they had got me doing, also the line on the scammers statement - i formed the opinion ... Blar blar .. then activated the camera. You know how long i was in view before i was zapped 2 seconds, formed my opinion my arse, he was just zapping everything that moved, and i thought that was illegal, also the cross heirs are definitely moving down because it follows my car down the hill, which i believe can add mph to your speed.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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