Hello,
I'm a nervous wreck right now so please be gentle.

Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - No
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

So, i'll get to the point. I've been riding a Vespa LX125 for a little over a year now, i'm a new road user, Provisional licence holder, and enjoying the liberating inexpensive experience of riding around on a moped in London.

I recieved 2 NIP's in the mail last week. Dated offenses one week apart. By the same camera (Gatso) in NW10 at roughly the same time.
Two Sunday's in a row on a clear, dry road.
1. (30mph restricted road) of 36mph on 15th April at 12:38
2. (30mph restricted road) of 40mph on 22nd April at 12:01

I already have three points from last August doing 36mph at 11pm on an empty road.
I'm so annoyed

I recieved them in the mail 12 days from the offense.
I found this website accidentally and i'm so thankful that i did, i've been reading everyone's posts intently to get some idea's.
It seems that i only really stand a chance if the NIP's arrived later than 14 days though.
I'm thinking about asking for pictures for proof. When i do this do i send the note of request with the NIP's blank just so they have reference details
I'm really scared and i don't have the funds to pay for legal fee's
Is this worth fighting?
What are my options?

Thanx

You say in the wizard you are not normally responsible for the vehicle? does anybody else ride it?

No, not really, i have let a few people test ride it as i was going to sell it.

Were people test riding it on those dates do you reckon?

Only, if it works out in my favor , honestly, the same camera, the same time, a week apart.
I'm going to send a request for pictures tomorrow, do i send back both NIP's?

It would be best to hold off on sending the NIPs back just yet. Write two separate letters, one for each case, saying something like



Even if there were other people riding the bike at the time, you'd still need to be able to prove it (insurance details etc), which is always a bit tricky.

Ok, Will get that sent out first thing tommorrow. thank you
Now, what if they take a long time getting back to me and it infringes upon my 28 days time limit to fill out the NIP form, will i get in big trouble?

Strictly speaking yes, they could kick up a fuss, but it's not especially likely they would. If it gets a bit close, it would probably be a good idea to ring and check with them to find out if there's a delay or something. Make sure you send everything by at least registered post to make sure it can be traced.

Great, thanks for the advise. Will keep you updated.

Google the Road Traffic (New Drivers) Act 1995 and see if it applies to you or whether there is a complementary act for bike riders rather than drivers.

I can't see that they will revoke a provisional licence but there is bound to be some catch-all clause.

Mick