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Sparks001
Hi,

I have just received a PCN for parking in a pay and display bay after the time had expired on the ticket.

The ticket has the date of notice, and "Was Seen on" date

However, it states it was seen between two times, one minute apart.
Shouldn't this be 5 minutes apart? (To give you time to go an get a ticket?) all the other PCN's have had two times, at least 5 minutes apart - is this required?

Ta!
Teufel
no - a single time is sufficient

there is no grace period - although councils rarely
try to enforce very short overstays due to evidential
requiremnts (eg proof of meter calibration, watch and clock synchro
etc)
Sparks001
Okay, thanks for the reply!
I have scanned them in, can you see any other problems with it that may void it!?

ta :0)


Teufel
sadly for you it looks as if it conforms

maybe best to pay the discount if avail

youcould wait for NTO and make reps hoping for errors
in the nto or rejection but it looks like this council
may have its act together

given all the recent publicity and successful on these issues
gradually more and more councils will conform
mr2
Whenever i'm stumped and have no option but to pay a fine , I always write out at least ten different cheques for various amounts that total the cost of the fine. I did this when I received a ticket in Kingston and it took them six months to process them!

Even if you lose you can still be a thorn in their side!
Teufel
it has 'issued by NCP Ltd..'
which i am certain is not right
the issuing of PCNs is not a power that can be delegated

see this thread

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=13645


howveer in yr case it is on the tear off slip which as we know
from patas moses v barnet is not part of the PCN
Ziltro
Have you checked to see if the lines & signs are correct? Photos are good... smile.gif
DW190
QUOTE (Teufel @ Fri, 1 Sep 2006 - 15:12) *
it has 'issued by NCP Ltd..'
which i am certain is not right
the issuing of PCNs is not a power that can be delegated
see this thread

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=13645


howveer in yr case it is on the tear off slip which as we know
from patas moses v barnet is not part of the PCN


If it says issued by NCP it should say "for and on behalf of XYZ council"
Teufel
it does say that but this is still defective (or would be if it was on pcn)

as the thread above makes clear
councils cannot dlegate to an agent under RTA 1991

how about 'you have been arrested by NCP for and behalf
of the metropolitan police'

though no doubt that is coming soon!!!!!
Wayne Pendle
QUOTE (Teufel @ Fri, 1 Sep 2006 - 21:37) *
how about 'you have been arrested by NCP for and behalf
of the metropolitan police'

though no doubt that is coming soon!!!!!



Ouch!! sad.gif

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Jammy1
The sample PCN at http://www.parking-appeals.gov.uk/IveReceived/knowPCN.asp gives -

QUOTE
Notice No: AB12345678
Date of Issue: 8/11/99
The Motor Vehicle with Registration No: A234 XYZ
Make: FORD
Colour: GREY
Was seen in: ANY STREET
From/To: 09.20 / 09.23
At: Opposite No. 23
On: 18/11/99
By Parking Attendant (number): 16
Signature:.................................
who had reasonable cause to believe that the following parking contravention had occurred: 01
PARKED IN A RESTRICTED STREET DURING RESTRICTED HOURS

You are therefore required to pay a penalty of £: £40.00 within 28 days
DO NOT PAY THE PARKING ATTENDANT


The copy of the PCN in question here doesn't have an At: only a Was seen in:


Are PCN's supposed to have the "At" as well as "Was seen in:" in order to narrow down the exact location for the contravention? unsure.gif Oxford Street in London for example is around a mile long!
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