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johnjames
Issue:
PCN's even though they are on private land!
Can force the matter through the courts.
They are okay having offical legal looking documents.
People break private parking laws and contraventions.

Thats the advise from Northampton Police. Note they had not even SEEN the paperwork supplied so how would they know?
The guy was taking about PCN's and parking contraventions, when I told him that PCN's and also CONTRAVENTIONS were only under the RTA 1991 he got stroppy about it.
I stated to him that these was no legal way they could issue PCN's only excess parking charges due to breach of contract! Then it would be hard for these people to prove that you had entered into a contract. NDM but this guy supposed to know the law etc but they are doing nothing illegal.
So I said if charge for you to be on my step to my house then issued you with a PCN then you did not pay threatened you with debt collectors and County Court what would you do? (Pushed aside) but he dam well knew from the tone of his voice that he really was not interested. Probably has few S172's to pursue or perhaps had to take time from holding his cash machine (speed gun)

What an earth do you do when the Police dont even know the law and wont take a look in at things? How high do you have to go?
Calming soothing suggestions on plate much welcome. John.
Teufel
the police are generally ignorant of civil law matters
(it is only a tiny part of their training) and usually unaware of
when a contract dispute becomes a criminal matter

- demanding money with no legal right
- demanding money with nuisance and harassment
- nusiance and harassment
- fraud and deception
- deceptively official looking documents

a better place could be trading standards who investigate
deceptive and illegal business practices - you need to be persitstant
to get hold of someone who understands the issues

the other is to press on the dvla via your mp for issuing details to crooks
andy_foster
There are 2 spearate issues here -
just because something is unlawful, does not necessarily make it illegal, and
time spent thinking doesn't register on their KPIs.
Catweazle
Sorry Teufel, but those two options are a waste of time (or at least, when I followed them they were)
Trading Standards (Slough) gave the advice "If you have been given a parking charge you must pay it" and DVLA said "We issue RK details in good faith assuming that requesting companies have complied with guidelines".
The latter is further complicated by the fact that the private parking companies themselves don't get details from DVLA, but rather pass the work out to specialist agencies who can probably prove that they comply with the guidelines.
Don't look for help from anyone (except PePiPoo wink.gif ) - stand firm, say I don't owe you any money because ... and say you'll see them in court (your local court smile.gif )
Teufel
TS can be unhelpful - it is important to frame the complaint
not as a parking charge but as an illegal penalty charge
(assuming it isone)

the dvla are being investigated by mps

lynne jones mp is being helpful on b both issues

http://www.lynnejones.org.uk/parkingenforcement.htm
zamzara
The fact that TS would try to offer a judgement on whether a contract is valid or not without even seeing the alleged contract just about sums them up.
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