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bluecookeh
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2018
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A4540 Watery Lane Middleway between Bordesley Circus and Great Barr street toward Garrison Circus, UNITED KINGDOM
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - From the time on the letter (early morning) I was on my way to the local gym (post code B9 4EH), meaning the camera would have been between the Bordesley Circus roundabout and Westley Street.

As far as I am aware there is no 30mph sign on this stretch of road between the Bordesley Circus roundabout and the Garrison Circus roundabout - maybe this would be an issue for them? Any help appreciated.

They are alleging I was doing 43mph in a 30mph zone.


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 16:16:13 +0000
Jlc
Is there a system of street lighting?

(EDIT: appears to be so a restricted road of 30mph without signs to the contrary)
bluecookeh
QUOTE (Jlc @ Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 17:20) *
Is there a system of street lighting?


Ahh crud I forgot about that - yes. If I just accept the fact it happened and fill the form out what would the consequences likely to be, if you don't mind me asking?

Streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4747871,-1....3312!8i6656
Jlc
Just too fast for a course so 3 points £100...
bluecookeh
QUOTE (Jlc @ Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 17:25) *
Just too fast for a course so 3 points £100...


Seems pretty clear cut to me - thanks for the help smile.gif
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