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Cook1e
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - October 2017
Date of the NIP: - 8 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A1 Road Northbound, Beeston, Bedfordshire
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was not aware of the offence until I received the NIP

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:25:30 +0000

Failing to pay attention, I guess. I don't even know whether this was a Gatso, a camera van or average speed cameras (I doubt the latter, as I normally stay below 55 where there are average cameras)

Any advice apart from 'suck it up'?
AntonyMMM
Should be a speed awareness course (if you haven't done one in the last 3 years) ..... any other question ?
Logician
Easy enough to miss, going North you are in a 60 mph limit for some time, which drops to a 50 mph limit HERE and then the camera is little further on in Beeston itself HERE

Nothing to be done about it regretfully but you should be offered a course if you have not done one for an offence in the past three years, as mentioned, otherwise £100 plus 3 points.
Cook1e
Thanks guys, I appreciate the frank response. About that course... Erm, I was caught in Doncaster on Mother's day - very similar circumstances, but bike rather than car - 50mph dual carriageway off the A1 (A635 or A638, can't remember now) on my way to the retail outlet there to pick up some goodies for Mum when, with no change that I could see in the road or environs, the limit dropped to 40 with a camera about 150 yards beyond it blush.gif
peterguk
QUOTE (Cook1e @ Thu, 23 Nov 2017 - 00:34) *
Thanks guys, I appreciate the frank response. About that course... Erm, I was caught in Doncaster on Mother's day - very similar circumstances, but bike rather than car - 50mph dual carriageway off the A1 (A635 or A638, can't remember now) on my way to the retail outlet there to pick up some goodies for Mum when, with no change that I could see in the road or environs, the limit dropped to 40 with a camera about 150 yards beyond it blush.gif


So it'll be a CoFP - £100 fine and 3 points. How long have you had your DL?
Cook1e
QUOTE (peterguk @ Thu, 23 Nov 2017 - 01:37) *
How long have you had your DL?


Since 1975 for the car and 1972 for the bike.

Erm... And the certificate from the IAM since 2011 blush.gif
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