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Jelly_Bean_Jon
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - April 2017
Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A38 Bridgwater Rd, Cross, Sedgemoor, UNITED KINGDOM
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - I am the registered keeper
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The NIP states I was driving at 48 in a 40 area, I'm not sure that's true as I remember speeding up when I came to the 50 sign

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 21:15:23 +0000
BaggieBoy
QUOTE (Jelly_Bean_Jon @ Fri, 7 Apr 2017 - 22:15) *
The NIP states I was driving at 48 in a 40 area, I'm not sure that's true as I remember speeding up when I came to the 50 sign

But did you speed up before the 50 sign? Many people do that and that's exactly where camera vans are located (and to also catch the motorists who don't start slowing down until after they have passed the limit sign).
Jelly_Bean_Jon
I think it's a fixed GATSO on a post - I have requested details of the camera in question from the SEU involved.
Logician
QUOTE (Jelly_Bean_Jon @ Fri, 7 Apr 2017 - 23:12) *
I think it's a fixed GATSO on a post - I have requested details of the camera in question from the SEU involved.


If it is a Gatso the speed can be checked from the road markings. Write back asking for any available photographs to assist in identifying the driver, making no mention of proof or evidence which you are not entitled to at this stage. Most forces will send these or direct you to a website. Then you should be able to see where this was and confirm it was your car. If you wash off the details and post it up here following the directions in the FAQs, people will be able to tell you if it is a clean ping and calculate the speed if it is a GATSO.

This does not stop the time running on the 28 days you have to respond. Failing to identify the driver is a much more serious offence than speeding, so do not risk that.




Jlc
Entering Cross it's a 40 (here) and continues for many miles - I don't see any 50mph? (GSV from July 2016)

If leaving, I don't see any static cameras? As noted, perhaps you were pinged accelerating too early.
Jelly_Bean_Jon
I was going the other way, the 50 I'm talking about is on the back of the sign you linked to

The static camera is quite some distance from that sign,, really just after the 40 at the other end of Cross

here
Jlc
Ok, if it was that camera then there's little to doubt the speed measurement. (It's via buried sensors where the speed is measured twice and then corroborated by the lines on the road)
Jelly_Bean_Jon
yeah, I think I'm stuffed, I'll wait to hear back from them about photos though (for ID of course)
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