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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - June 2016
Date of the NIP: - 10 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 287 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A8 Larne
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Received this all with a summons today as my change of address was not updated with DVLA for RK - just insurers and licence. Unsure of who was driving as could have been me or my partner (was nearly a year ago on a daily used road)

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Unsure
Do you know who was driving? - Unsure who was driving

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 20:51:51 +0000
southpaw82
A summons for...?
Legnum
Speeding (60 mph in a 40 area of dual carriageway) and failure to disclose driver details
peterguk
Can you confirm date of offence and date on summons?
Legnum
Date of offence is 25th June 2016 and date on summons is 20/12/17 - (letter from PPS was dated 23/02/17) handed to me today at correct address on 04/04/17
The Rookie
As it appears the failure to update the RK details was yours (?) then you appear to have no defence to the S172 offence of failing to furnish drivers details.

If you were at least as likely as your wife to be driving then you can attempt a plea bargain where you agree with the prosecuter to plead guilty to the speeding if the S172 is dropped, if you have a summons or postal requisition you can do that on the day mentioned, if you actually have a single justice procedure notice you would have to plead not guilty to both charges so the case is transferred to a real court where you have an actual hearing take place. You need to clarify which you actually have.
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