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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - September 2016
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A140 Coddenham, Suffolk, UNITED KINGDOM
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was driving back from Great Yarmouth, the incident happened at 23:25. I'd just been frustrated by slow drivers on a single carriageway and so opened up my speed on the dual carriageway which had a 50 limit for whatever reason. Another driver was flashing me, probably to make me aware of the trap, but I didn't know that at the time. I was doing 61MPH when I was flashed, and given the swift nature of this demand being issued, assume it was a digital device. I saw the 50 signs, but not the camera as it was dark.

Obviously, they have me bang to rights, whether I agree with the limit or not. Would I be entitled to a speed awareness course though? I previously completed one for an offence on 26th December 2012, which was taken early 2013.

I also had a cancelled speeding ticket here, should that make any difference

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:07:11 +0000
Yup, should be good for a course offer.
Speed awareness courses may be offered for speeds up to 110% of the limit + 9 mph, which is 64 in a 50, so you are OK there, and the three year restriction applies from offence date to offence date, so again you fit in and a course should be offered.
This weren't the camera at the bottom of the hill just before the roundabout was it?

And you'd gone through so many speed changes on the A140 to get to that bit. smile.gif
Yeah, that's the one, nice little money maker for them I guess
QUOTE (RussWWFC @ Tue, 11 Oct 2016 - 10:17) *
Yeah, that's the one, nice little money maker for them the Treasury I guess

More accurate.
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Tue, 11 Oct 2016 - 10:39) *
QUOTE (RussWWFC @ Tue, 11 Oct 2016 - 10:17) *
Yeah, that's the one, nice little money maker for them the Treasury I guess

More accurate.

But, of course, only from drivers who exceed the speed limit by more than 10%.
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Tue, 11 Oct 2016 - 10:39) *
QUOTE (RussWWFC @ Tue, 11 Oct 2016 - 10:17) *
Yeah, that's the one, nice little money maker for them the Treasury the force in question if the errant motorist takes a speed awareness course, or the treasury if he was going to fast for a course or otherwise is not offered or does not take such a course, I guess

More accurate.

Well, quite, but let's leave bribery out of it, eh? wink.gif
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