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Insomniac
post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 22:13
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We were returning from a bachelor's party last month; we were all drunk except my younger brother, who helped us all get back home by driving my friend's car(owner/RK wasnt there among us) ; my brother was driving the car and did speeding of 36mph in 30 zone(caught by rear camera). He had a provisional licence and was driving without 'L' plate and none of us in the car had UK licence for 4 yrs.
The RK of car got NIP and clearly wanted someone to take the blame. Since i had full UK licence (2 yrs this month) and also fully comp on my own car, i had to give my name to RK under obligation.
Now i got NIP in my name yesterday but I am somehow reluctant to give my name as i never had any points on my licence.
Any suggestions ????
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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 22:21
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Don't drop the soap.
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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 22:23
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If you give your name, knowing that it wasn't you who was driving (in order to protect the real driver from prosecution), then you are perverting the cause of justice and face a real risk of being imprisoned should being found out and convicted. The real driver would also be prosecuted and face jail time.

A very foolish and criminal thing to do. Do not expect anyone on this forum to condone your actions!
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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 22:32
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Do what you wish BUT there are consequences...

Why the hell would you actually come on to an internet forum and ask such a question???

Pepipoo is about fighting the tickets etc... Would it not have been better to enquire about the likelyhoods of escaping the ticket as oppose to asking if we approve of you attempting to pervert the course of justice or committing a little perjury,,,


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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 22:33
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Hmmm.... a car load of pissed blokes, driven by a lad who hasn't passed his test, in someone else's car...
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Any suggestions ????

Er... promise yourself never to get into that situation again?

This post is a windup, isn't it? Please? wacko.gif
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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:25
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Probably irrelevant, but a supervising driver only needs to have held a license for 3 years.

Just put your brothers name, and the points will go on his provisional license. At that speed he will either get a COFP for 3 points and £60, or a Speed Awareness Course. The missing L plates more than likely won't even be noticed.

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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:31
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QUOTE (peodude @ Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:25) *
Probably irrelevant, but a supervising driver only needs to have held a license for 3 years.



Or over the age of 21
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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:39
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QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:31) *
QUOTE (peodude @ Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:25) *
Probably irrelevant, but a supervising driver only needs to have held a license for 3 years.



Or over the age of 21


And over the age of 21.

When I got my full licence, I was legally qualified to supervise learners.
When I had held it for 3 years, I wasn't qualified to supervise learners.

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post Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:46
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QUOTE (Bryan Armstrong @ Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 22:33) *
This post is a windup, isn't it? Please? wacko.gif

One is tempted to believe, from time to time, that elements of the "dark side" occasionally like to test our mettle, hoping perhaps to tempt a rather more naive member into going along with the sort of line illustrated here. However, as the months have past and these posts continue the conclusion one is now forced to draw is that they are probably entirely genuine. Fed by the urban myth mill its seen as being fair game. Only when the BiB arrive with a big van and an invite to play hunt-the-soap-with Bubba for six months will it dawn on these lads that what they have already done and are contemplating going further with could well, at the current count, see three of them getting one of those "special" invites.

Insomniac - sorry guys but you are being really, really stupid. You've come onto this public forum and admitted what you are up - and expect us to advise you. What you are doing amounts to the offence of conspiring to pervert the course of justice - which is absolutely positively guaranteed jail time. If you don't believe me have a read of just some samples I've just got off Google. Here, here and here.

My serious advice is that you fess up now, and the situation will be dealt with by way of some fines, a few points and maybe a short ban but at least you will all still be free to go out and get p*ssed again - but this time remember to use a taxi!

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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 00:04
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" we were all drunk except my younger brother, who helped us all get back home by driving my friend's car Since i had full UK licence (2 yrs this month) "

"Probably irrelevant, but a supervising driver only needs to have held a license for 3 years."

Shouldn't the supervising driver also be under the legal drink-drive limit?
(I think I read somewhere that a supervising driver can be charged/convicted of using a mobile phone whilst supervising a provisional driver)

Even if OP follows his own suggested course of action the speeding was last month and he only escapes the new driver penalty this month. If I read it correctly that's an auto withdrawal of Licence and a full retest. I don't think you can take the driving test in chokey. Can you still buy soap on a rope inside?
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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 00:30
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dear users.. i deeply apologise for causing any unintentional offence to anyone. Its was truly an eye opener for me and as i told u guys earlier my conscience wasnt allowing me to go ahead with this 'bad idea' .. Yes i now promise i will never do such silly thing in my life and will now without a doubt name my brother with prov licence.. i dont have to be a genius to know that a jail term to me will be disastrous than my brother getting driving ban!
Thnak you very much for preventing me from getting into an 'unpardonable' situation..truly sorry again for any offence caused.
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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 00:55
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QUOTE (ford poplar @ Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 00:04) *
Shouldn't the supervising driver also be under the legal drink-drive limit?

(I think I read somewhere that a supervising driver can be charged/convicted of using a mobile phone whilst supervising a provisional driver)


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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 00:58
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They probably won't ask for anything more than the £60 and his liscence to endorse- as long as they get their money and liscence to endorse they don't generally investigate anymore
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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 00:59
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QUOTE (Hotel Oscar 87 @ Fri, 13 Mar 2009 - 23:46) *
What you are doing amounts to the offence of conspiring to pervert the course of justice - which is absolutely positively guaranteed jail time.


Only amounts to conspiring if someone is stupid enough to agree with him.

'Point swapping' is apparently very common - and arguably a symptom of the process.

However, posting on a public forum that you intend to do so is almost as stupid as confessing everything when the police subsequently visit, in the hope that they'll let you off lightly.


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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 01:22
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many thanks andy for those comments... i truly apologise to all the readers if i have sent out a wrong message ... as i have told earlier, i am indeed now going to name my little brother on the NIP i received... cheers all for saving me from getting into the big trap ....
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post Sat, 14 Mar 2009 - 07:33
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