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[NIP Wizard] NIP when driving hire car
post Thu, 8 Jan 2009 - 20:51
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - October 2008
Date of the NIP: - 88 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 89 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A246 Epsom Road, East Clandon
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Hire car driver
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - They claim I was doing 80mph in a 50mph zone.
I have no recollection of there being either a fixed camera on that road or there being a mobile camera on that day.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Thu, 8 Jan 2009 - 20:51
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Pete D
post Thu, 8 Jan 2009 - 21:18
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I suggest you write to them as ask for copies of any photo's to help identify the driver. Do Not elaborate or use the words evidence or proof. They do not have to provide these but usually do. When you get them wash off the ID and reg and post them on your thread using the instructions in the FAQ's and other will tell you if there are any errors or get outs. This does not stop the 28 day clock. Pete D
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post Fri, 9 Jan 2009 - 11:28
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It would be helpfull to describe your relationship with the hire car to understand if you would be classed as 'keeper' or not, the onus being very different!


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