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[NIP Wizard] NIP 36mph in a 30 limit
post Sat, 14 Jun 2008 - 12:53
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - June 2008
Date of the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 5 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A583 Watery Ln, 30mph, W of West Strand, Preston (D Div) Static
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 6
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Was driving in line of traffic, it was 5.01pm so rush hour. The car in fron tof me had just quickly changed lanes so I wasn't paying full attention to my speed.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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post Sat, 14 Jun 2008 - 12:53
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post Sat, 14 Jun 2008 - 20:20
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Can anyone offer any advice about this NIP? Although I answered in the wizard that I have 6 points already I think they aren't relevant anymore, they were over 3 years ago now. I'd just moved to the area and was caught twice in the space of a week going 60mph on a dual carriageway that I pressumed was 70mph but was actually 50mph.

This camera is on a busy stretch of road and I was caught at 5.01pm, so rush hour. I could have been doing the 36mph that the NIP says, but I'm not sure, the car in front of me had just switched lanes at the last minute so I wasn't really looking at my speedo!

I've read a bit on here about trying for a time out, can that be done? And should I ask for the photos to try and double check my speed? It was probably me driving but whether the photos will show that clearly I'm not sure.

Any advice would gladly received.


This post has been edited by Kirstie: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 - 10:18
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post Sun, 15 Jun 2008 - 09:26
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A little too early to be thinking about a time out although this has been achieved in cases with 'special circumstances' none of which I can see in your case.
And should I ask for the photos to try and double check my speed? It was definately me driving but whether the photos will show that clearly I'm not sure.
asking for the photos 'to help identify the driver' would normally be the process that I would say to take but firstly you would need 2 photos and secondly you have stated in an open post (which the 'dark side' can and do read rolleyes.gif ) that you were the driver.
Sorry Kirstie, but the decision has to be yours .................... and I have to be very careful!

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post Mon, 16 Jun 2008 - 11:33
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Nothing wrong with writing and asking for photo's 'to help confirm the drivers ID' though.....


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