Execessive speed not specified in NIP |
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Execessive speed not specified in NIP |
 Tue, 25 May 2004 - 12:21
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 25 May 2004 Member No.: 1,242  |
Hey guys,
great website here. I've just been trawling through all the emails and there is a wealth of information. My problem: I have been sent an NIP 16 days after the offence but it is a company car so probably won't get away with "Time out " argument. However, the NIP does not specify the speed I was going. It only says that I exceeded the 30 mph. Are they legally bound to be more specific when sending a threat letter such as the NIP? Thanks |
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Tue, 25 May 2004 - 12:40
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 4,714 Joined: 3 Sep 2003 From: ex-Scotland Member No.: 298 |
Hi proton,
I'm assuming this is the Met that sent you this? They have a history of sending out NIPs with no specified speed on them. Did the relevant force send out a conditional offer along with it? -------------------- Regards,
ff Benefitted from PePiPoo?  Useful Info: 1 Read This First 2. 14-day Rule; 3. 6-month Rule. 4. NIP Wizard. 5. Success Stories. |
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Tue, 25 May 2004 - 12:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 420 Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Member No.: 455 |
Norfolk do the same thing, it's becoming more and more common.
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Tue, 25 May 2004 - 13:48
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Hi proton
QUOTE It only says that I exceeded the 30 mph. Are they legally bound to be more specific when sending a threat letter such as the NIP?
To answer the specific question - No. Can you remember the 'event' ? Any chance of 'ban' speed?  or as ff said Conditional Offer?
Regards -------------------- Blackbird
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Tue, 25 May 2004 - 14:48
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 29 Oct 2003 From: Nottinghamshire Member No.: 470 |
I have the same kind of thing in Derbyshire. No particular speed but a range from 55-70 on a summons. :? Already been to court twice and revisiting on 4th June so will soon find out.
If no speed is specified then surely it will be a fixed penalty of 3 points, or maybe soon 2, and £60. THe best thing to do is have a good read of http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga..._en_2.htm#mdiv1 and aslo http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=1073 |
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Thu, 27 May 2004 - 12:00
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 25 May 2004 Member No.: 1,242 |
Can you remember the 'event' ? Any chance of 'ban' speed?
or as ff said Conditional Offer?
I remember the event and I don't thin I was going over 30. What is a ban speed? Yes it was the Met! Can Gatsos work proeprly if there are no lines on the road like we usually see? |
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Sat, 29 May 2004 - 09:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 10 Apr 2004 From: Norfolk Member No.: 1,082 |
Proton, I had NIP from Norfolk also without speed specified. I have since received a copy of some photos and whilst 'they' still won't say what speed my car was alleged to have been doing, I managed to smudge away their scribble from the photo which showed a speed of 125mph.
So no speed stated on NIP is NOT an indication of merely a fixed penalty prosecution - unfortunately  .
-------------------- Cheers
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