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ALPHIL82
post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 18:13
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received a pcn off bridgend council dated 27/07/20 about parking in a taxi rank recorded by an approve device but it was from 19/03/2020 is this legal? thanks
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 18:28
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is it a lease/hire car?

Post the PCN.

Put pics on https://imgbb.com or such like as space on forum is limited.
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 18:47
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no i am registered keeper
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 19:02
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QUOTE (ALPHIL82 @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 19:47) *
no i am registered keeper


Have you got the v5c is it registered at your address exactly?


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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 19:16
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yes i have

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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 19:43
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Are the Welsh regulations the same as the English ones ? A quick look at the Welsh "General Regulations" shows an indentical period of 28 days with the usual caveats as per the English regulations.

So it looks as if they are trying it on. IN this case one can only submit representations pointing out that the PCN has been served out-of-time and see what they say.

Having said the above, there is only one outstanding question - is the address on the V5 the same as was on it at the time of the alleged contravention ?
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 19:50
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yes it was, will they try to use lockdown as a reason for delay? thanks
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:00
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here:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.504258,-3.5...6384!8i8192
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:02
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Coronavirus or not they are 102 days out of time. Regardless of what excuse the counci produce, no adjudicator will allow that lengt of delay.
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:05
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There's something else wrong but we need to see ALL of it.


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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:12
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:00) *



yes

QUOTE (nextdoor @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:02) *
Coronavirus or not they are 102 days out of time. Regardless of what excuse the counci produce, no adjudicator will allow that lengt of delay.


thank you

what an amazing helpful site thank you all keep it up smile.gif
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:23
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:05) *
There's something else wrong but we need to see ALL of it.


Helloo ooo?


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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:29
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:23) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:05) *
There's something else wrong but we need to see ALL of it.


Helloo ooo?


that is all 1 page nothing on back
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Neil B
post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:33
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QUOTE (ALPHIL82 @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:29) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:23) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:05) *
There's something else wrong but we need to see ALL of it.


Helloo ooo?


that is all 1 page nothing on back


Really? So how are you going to make representations?
It says there are 4 pages in all?

For that matter, if you had decided to pay it, then how?

If that really is just a single, one sided, sheet then we have a considerable amount to add to representations.

It's interesting that much of the mandatory content missing is that from the Appeals Regs and I note they haven't cited
those regs at the top.

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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:48
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:33) *
QUOTE (ALPHIL82 @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:29) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:23) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:05) *
There's something else wrong but we need to see ALL of it.


Helloo ooo?


that is all 1 page nothing on back


Really? So how are you going to make representations?
It says there are 4 pages in all?


there are 4 pages in all but they are just ways to pay and reasons to challenge
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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:50
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We need to see all of the PCN it is faulty and we need to check it out please post the other 3 pages


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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 20:54
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QUOTE (ALPHIL82 @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:48) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:33) *
QUOTE (ALPHIL82 @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:29) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:23) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:05) *
There's something else wrong but we need to see ALL of it.


Helloo ooo?


that is all 1 page nothing on back


Really? So how are you going to make representations?
It says there are 4 pages in all?


there are 4 pages in all but they are just ways to pay and reasons to challenge

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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:03
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:50) *
We need to see all of the PCN it is faulty and we need to check it out please post the other 3 pages



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Neil B
post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:04
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@PMB
Payment periods ! And no doubt the reps period will be the same.
I wonder what else we will find.


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post Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 21:06
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 31 Jul 2020 - 22:04) *
@PMB
Payment periods ! And no doubt the reps period will be the same.
I wonder what else we will find.


Not looked yet but it reminds me of early Cardiff PCN's

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but two pages out of 4 does not cut it for me

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