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driftking
post Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 21:47
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post Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 22:03
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QUOTE (driftking @ Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 22:47) *
I was driving my car and a women was pulling out of a petrol garage, I have brushed down the front of her car and then smashed off a lamp post. I was playing music loudly and didnt know I brushed her car but realised that I smashed off the lamp post. As I only lived down the road I just carried on driving as there was no point in me stopping as I didnt know I had brushed her car.

If you didnt realise you hit the woman or see her Why did you think you then smashed off the lampost?

Points and a fine.
You will aldo likely have serious insurance renewal issues with a conviction and points with a 6 month old licence.
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driftking
post Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 22:18
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Finished must of been doing 40-50 in a 30. Stupidity really seems somewhat of a blur to me!

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post Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 22:33
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QUOTE (driftking @ Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 23:18) *
I must of been doing 40-50 in a 30.


I'd recommend against telling anyone that.

Just to get some facts straight:
- You were speeding in excess of 10-20 mph in a 30mph.
- You were blasting music loud enough to not notice you hit another vehicle
- You drove over the top of a mini-roundabout.
- You've only held your license for 6 months.
- You hit a vehicle and drove off, failing to report it.

I'll let somebody who's more experienced comment regarding the punishment you're likely to face, but I'd say it's not looking good so far.

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post Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 23:02
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I know I was in the wrong 100% but I need to know what the punishment is likely to be.
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post Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 23:50
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You were offered a course, and that indicates that the police did not consider this to be a serious offence, courses are offered only for lesser offences. Make clear on the form that you had accepted a course but that it was cancelled because of the lockdown. It would seem inequitable to give you any more than 3 points in these circumstances.

I think you were very lucky to have been offered a course, you could well have been charged with failing to stop or report as well as careless driving.


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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 08:26
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Without seeing the prosecution summary (which is normally the basis you would be sentenced on) it’s impossible to say how the court will view the offence.


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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 10:04
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QUOTE (Logician @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 00:50) *
You were offered a course, and that indicates that the police did not consider this to be a serious offence, courses are offered only for lesser offences. Make clear on the form that you had accepted a course but that it was cancelled because of the lockdown. It would seem inequitable to give you any more than 3 points in these circumstances.

I think you were very lucky to have been offered a course, you could well have been charged with failing to stop or report as well as careless driving.

Very lucky to avoid a failure to stop charge. He may not have realised he'd hit the car, but he admits he "smashed" the lamp post.
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 10:15
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It does seem rather strange to have only been offered a course in the first place.
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 10:42
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QUOTE (driftking @ Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 22:47) *
I was driving my car and a women was pulling out of a petrol garage, I have brushed down the front of her car and then smashed off a lamp post. I was playing music loudly and didnt know I brushed her car but realised that I smashed off the lamp post. As I only lived down the road I just carried on driving as there was no point in me stopping as I didnt know I had brushed her car.

So did you report the collision to the police? Have you contacted the local authority? If you damaged a lamp post, the local authority will presumably want to seek compensation to get the lamp post fixed. The fact that the lamp post is publicly owned doesn't mean that the normal obligations to exchange details don't exist (and there's no reason why the local taxpayer should pick up the bill).


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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 10:48
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QUOTE (666 @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 11:04) *
Very lucky to avoid a failure to stop charge. He may not have realised he'd hit the car, but he admits he "smashed" the lamp post.

Perhaps they thought it would be a bit daft to charge someone for failing to stop and exchange details with a lamp post? Now if he didn't report it within 24 hours that would be a different matter, but we don't know that, do we?


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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 12:52
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:00
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QUOTE (driftking @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:52) *
I went home and then had a few drinks as I was a little shook up and my car was badly damaged. I went to sleep and the officers woke me up this was within 12 hours of the accident and questioned me. The officer said in the statement that I said I didnt stop because in my own country we dont have to. This is definitely not the case but then I think maybe he has helped me with that?

Do you think that I will be able to apply for the course now as the countries restrictions are lifted?


Are you on a UK driving license?
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:19
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Yes full UK driving license.
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:19
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QUOTE (driftking @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:52) *
Do you think that I will be able to apply for the course now as the countries restrictions are lifted?


Very unlikely now the matter has gone into the court system, and time has passed, but there is nothing to be lost by asking. I have seen a prosecution paused to give the driver an opportunity to take a course originally offered when the failure to take it up was not his fault.



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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:48
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QUOTE (driftking @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 13:52) *
The officer said in the statement that I said I didnt stop because in my own country we dont have to.

That's odd, for that sort of admission I'd expect the officer to write it down in his pocket notebook and ask you to sign it. As I take it this didn't happen, the officer might be "mistaken" in his recollection of what you said.


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driftking
post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 15:09
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Yeah he recorded the conversation too wacko.gif
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 19:25
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QUOTE (driftking @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 16:09) *
Yeah he recorded the conversation too wacko.gif

Sorry who recorded what exactly?

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