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Scooba_Steve
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 13:45
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Hello all,

Have left this a bit late as I was actually considering paying up.

Don't have access to a scanner at the moment but wondered what your thoughts were.

In genuine error I entered the bus lane NE bound on Mandeville Road adjacent to Northolt tube station. I entered where the crossing markings begin and did not gain any advantage, nor impede a bus. I realised I had made the error as I came over the crest of the crossing and saw the remaining bus lane. I was unable to exit as I would have pulled out in front of a vehicle that was closing on my offside.

I made an informal challenge which was rejected and did not address any of the points I made.

Is this worth taking to appeal - how successful are challenges based on not gaining an advantage? I was in the bus lane for more than 20 m but only within the crossing markings as the lane following the crossing is only 20 m long.

Thanks in advance
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PASTMYBEST
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 14:01
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It is vey hard for us to say without seeing anything. Take photos on your phone and linkt hem via an external hosting site such as imgur. also get and post the video


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Scooba_Steve
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 15:34
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Thought that would be the response. One of my points was that I am unable to get the video from their site despite multiple attempts.
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Scooba_Steve
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 19:24
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Hope these links work, docs in order 1,2, initial PCN; 3, my response; 4,5 their response by email. Really grateful if anyone can offer advice, especially regarding de minimis.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ILcaQ69E6Q...iew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cQFoDnh8jK...iew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uTuigET5NH...iew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gqp69slLSs...iew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18K1RRllH7R...iew?usp=sharing
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post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 22:14
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Get the video and post that, but I think you would only be looking at a technical argument. They state the wrong regs on the notice of decline for a start but I don't think that would be enough


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Scooba_Steve
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 06:21
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Thanks, so nothing wrong with the initial PCN. What about not being able to download the video? Is there much lenience from adjudicators for not gaining advantage?
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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 17:44
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PM me the PCN details and I'll see if I can get the video.


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Scooba_Steve
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 22:00
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_ai...Cgo?usp=sharing

They are still offering the discount, I presume until the end of today only.
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