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fazzy
post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 13:38
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Hi All,

I need advise on a PCN received. I parked in car park next to work and paid for 4 hours parking. it expired at 1.33pm. I was busy at work so forgot and missed all the notification. I remembered at 2.25pm and renewed it again. Unfortunately I returned to the car after work to find the the ticket. Do I have any grounds of appeal? I plan to send an email showing the payments and being honest about forgetting the time. Is there anything more I can state in the email?? Any advice will be appreciated.
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pics of pcn and payment notifications: https://imgur.com/a/GymPjLD
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post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 13:49
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At what time did the initial session expire?

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post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 14:11
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So between 1.33 and 2.25 your parking was not paid for. I assume the PbP facility doesn't allow back-timing. Even if it does, the CEO would have checked using his mobile terminal and found it was unpaid and would have correctly issued the PCN.

If your later payment took the time from expiry of the first session, it will be worth submitting reps but this will be based on mitigation, and they may decide to not cancel.
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post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 14:16
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From the receipt the new session started at 2.25pm. No chance with this apart from discretion and maybe being a long standing customer.

But OP - why didn't you buy an all day ticket?

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fazzy
post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 22:12
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Thank you all for taking the time to review and reply.

I get a permit through work which expired in July (work in a school). I renewed it for new school year and it’s arrived today so I was parking in the car park in the mean time. There was no option of full day. It only allows me to pay for 4 hours at a time which was a pain.

Thanks to your advices, I will go with an email explaining my circumstances and hope for a kind soul on the other end. 😅

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post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 22:23
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This GSV from March says Stanley Road car park is £5 all day unless it's been changed recently - were you in this car park?

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5751815,-0....6384!8i8192
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fazzy
post Wed, 11 Sep 2019 - 22:35
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Yes, it used to be £5 but they changed it sometime in last academic year and now they don’t accept any cash.



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post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 09:53
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Let's see a picture of the terms board in the car park.
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fazzy
post Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 11:54
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 10:53) *
Let's see a picture of the terms board in the car park.


I will drive down after work today and take pictures. Thank you.
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fazzy
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 17:21
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Sorry for delay.

Here’s all the pics and the video showing the pay machine doesn’t work.

https://imgur.com/a/pcM6VCz

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cp8759
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 18:28
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Is there any evidence that they actually don't accept cash, as opposed to the machine simply being faulty?


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No, I am not a lawyer.
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fazzy
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 20:47
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No, I don’t think there is as signs still suggest otherwise. 🤷🏻‍♀️
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 13:29
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So far all we know it's just a fault with the machine. Are there any other machines in the car park?

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fazzy
post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 15:03
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Yes, This is the only machine in the car park.
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cp8759
post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 17:01
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You could look at the angle that you would have paid the £5 all day fee but you were unable to do so because the machine was broken. I've done an FOI request on the machine logs.

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