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NIP Speeding in Cumbria (Lake District)
Plywood-Enthusia...
post Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 17:58
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Did the NIP Wizard

NIP arrived fast, surprisingly fast in fact. 2 working days later I got it in the post. I am the RK and was driving at the time of the offence.

Was caught speeding here: https://www.google.com/maps/@54.3808323,-2....3312!8i6656

The area was clear, no peds about not much traffic about. Drove up from London to the Lakes, for about 5 hours. Been driving 70mph most of the trip. Suddenly dropped from highway speed to 40mph, I remember the incident actually, I was feathering the brakes as I was going through it and knew I messed up. The speedo was reading high 40s as I was going past the camera. when you're doing 70mph all day long dropping down to 40 feels so slow.

Is there any out from this? Any issues on the NIP?

I am eligible for a speed awareness course as it has been over 3 years since last course. I have 3 points for speeding right now and need to drive for a living.

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post Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 18:25
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Sounds like a course is the best outcome, there's no reason I can see why they wouldn't offer it.

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post Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 07:20
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If you had completed the NIP wizard (as asked to in the 'read this first before posting' sticky) we would also have the dates you have thoughtfully (?) redacted thus preventing us seeing if the nip is valid. Your call.


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post Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 11:42
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I've redacted the date & time because just like the name, address, penalty number, it can be used by police to trace the person.

For the sake of this, dates can be +/- 1 day from what I've posted below wink.gif

Date letter was printed: 29/07/2019
Date letter was received: 30/07/2019. WOW
Date of infraction: 25/7/2019

As I have said the timing is all above board and I have done the NIP, was wondering whether there was some technicality in the wording of the 172 notice that allows me to challege it like is the case with a lot of PCNs.
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post Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 11:46
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QUOTE (Plywood-Enthusiast @ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 12:42) *
...was wondering whether there was some technicality in the wording of the 172 notice that allows me to challege it like is the case with a lot of PCNs.

Nope. It's not like a PCN though wink.gif


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post Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 11:54
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QUOTE (Plywood-Enthusiast @ Thu, 15 Aug 2019 - 18:58) *
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Was caught speeding here: https://www.google.com/maps/@54.3808323,-2....3312!8i6656

The area was clear, no peds about not much traffic about. Drove up from London to the Lakes, for about 5 hours. Been driving 70mph most of the trip. Suddenly dropped from highway speed to 40mph, I remember the incident actually, I was feathering the brakes as I was going through it and knew I messed up. The speedo was reading high 40s as I was going past the camera. when you're doing 70mph all day long dropping down to 40 feels so slow.
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That site is in the country and nowhere near a motorway or highway 70mph speed limit. The cameras are far enough away from a 40mph speed limit boundary to stop from more than 140mph.
If you tell this ..."when you're doing 70mph all day long dropping down to 40 feels so slow"...to the magistrates see how you get on. A course would seem to be the best option for you.
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QUOTE (Plywood-Enthusiast @ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 12:42) *
I've redacted the date & time because just like the name, address, penalty number, it can be used by police to trace the person.

If you'd tried the NIP Wizard, or even looked at the output in other people's threads, you'd know that it doesn't display dates, times or any of the other personal details you're bothered about. It's almost as if we'd thought about that... icon_idea.gif


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post Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 21:22
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QUOTE (Plywood-Enthusiast @ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 - 12:42) *
I've redacted the date & time because just like the name, address, penalty number, it can be used by police to trace the person.

To be honest even if they trace you, so what? Providing you're not planing on committing a more serious offence such as PCOJ or perjury, I struggle to see what difference it could make.


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