PCN for driving down an apparent one way |
PCN for driving down an apparent one way |
Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 12:11
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
so last year i received a PCN through mail(20/10/18). this was because i was taking directions from a friend but basically i saw the no entry signs and pulled over as me and my friend were talking about it. i then decided to not go through. keeping in mind the no entry was just on a pole and no other signs on the road displayed anything other than a normal road. until a further junction which i did not cross. i then took a u turn and left. surely they should not be able to fine me just because i drove past a pole. anyways i appealed on 01/11/18 and just today on 18/01/19 received a response. can i re appeal from london tribunal and claim the 56 day rule or anything else? thanks to anyone willing to help.
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 12:15
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
Post all the documents you have.
The video is the crucial evidence - do you have it? Put pics on https://imgbb.com or such like. |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 12:58
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
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https://ibb.co/M17FTYH https://ibb.co/0Zk5Sxs https://ibb.co/DwLBKp6 https://ibb.co/YThp6Kc i also have a receipt from when i sent the appeal. sorry, what video are you talking about? This post has been edited by Amir khan: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 17:58 |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 13:21
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
This is the infamous Temple Mills Lane - we have lots of cases here in both directions but hard to appeal I think.
Video just shows you sailing past the signs: |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 13:30
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
thing is when i stopped there i reversed back to the sign and did a u turn, cant they access that and see i didnt use that bridge
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 13:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 26,655 Joined: 6 Nov 2014 Member No.: 74,048 |
With respect, if you ask for help from the people here, it would be proper for you to take the time to ensure the documents are posted the right way up and are readable
I would love to see some up to date photos https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.55005,-0....6384!8i8192 -------------------- All advice is given freely. It is given without guarantee and responsibility for its use rests with the user
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 13:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
thing is when i stopped there i reversed back to the sign and did a u turn, cant they access that and see i didnt use that bridge You can ask for subsequent video. I think though you went too far past the signs. As PMB says, you need to post things the right way up and include the full pages. |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 15:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Partial PCN:
NoR: The contravention is going past the signs, it makes no difference that you didn't go across the bridge. You're lucky this was in London, elsewhere in the country if the police saw you do this, you would get a £100 fixed penalty plus 3 points on your driving licence. I would pay the discounted penalty and put it down to experience. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 15:55
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
keeping in mind the no entry was just on a pole and no other signs on the road displayed anything other than a normal road What other indication other than a No Entry sign would you have expecteed to see? -------------------- |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 18:02
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
Oh I'll just pay it then, thanks for the help everyone.
I thought I could've used the 56 days to respond law but after looking around I think that's for something else. |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 18:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
The key date in moving traffic PCNs is they have to serve it on you in 28 days - did you get the PCN within that time? That applies if you are the registered keeper - can take longer for lease cars and certain other situations.
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 18:36
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
I received the pcn within 2 weeks but my appeal response was like 79 days and yeah I own the car
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 18:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 23,582 Joined: 12 Feb 2013 From: London Member No.: 59,924 |
56 day rule is for replying to formal representation to parking tickets.
3 months is stated by London Tribunals to reply to moving traffic reps but it's not a legal rule. https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/unde...rcement-process |
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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 - 22:55
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
Oh I'll just pay it then, thanks for the help everyone. I thought I could've used the 56 days to respond law but after looking around I think that's for something else. Yes sorry that's just for parking. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Sat, 19 Jan 2019 - 10:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Member No.: 11,319 |
Looks to me that you only stopped becasuse a bus was coming the other way.
I'm sure that wasn't the case, but an adjudicator might think that too! |
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Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 03:18
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
I got one more problem I just tried paying the fine and it says the pcn number isn't right, do they change it after they accept or decline my first appeal
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Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 11:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
I got one more problem I just tried paying the fine and it says the pcn number isn't right, do they change it after they accept or decline my first appeal Phone them in the morning and they'll sort it out for you -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 15:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,265 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
I got one more problem I just tried paying the fine and it says the pcn number isn't right, do they change it after they accept or decline my first appeal Works fine when I entered it. -------------------- |
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Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 17:55
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,984 |
Wth, I tried on my phone and computer. I'll try again
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Sun, 20 Jan 2019 - 18:09
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,265 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Only thing I can think of --- VRM -are entering a zero for the 'O' ?
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