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willy101
post Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 14:30
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Hi
I wonder if someone can help ,
I received PCN (attached) for Mare street D left turn from Mare street to Richmond road
I followed Google map as I followed previously without issues but now I got fine I challenged by given reasons they declined and give further 14 days to challenge or pay
Please help

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post Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 17:00
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Post the PCN. We have many cases here but depends on when the PCN was issued and also when you got it.

Put pics of PCN on https://imgbb.com or similar.
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willy101
post Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 22:51
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 18:00) *
Post the PCN. We have many cases here but depends on when the PCN was issued and also when you got it.

Put pics of PCN on https://imgbb.com or similar.



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stamfordman
post Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 23:12
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So you appealed and been rejected. What was your appeal? If it was following a map then that's no substitute for seeing signs.

As contravention is 16 Oct then likely it was served in time and signage has been upgraded for some time.

Paying the discount probably best but you may want to post the PCN.
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willy101
post Thu, 6 Dec 2018 - 09:47
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Thu, 6 Dec 2018 - 00:12) *
So you appealed and been rejected. What was your appeal? If it was following a map then that's no substitute for seeing signs.

As contravention is 16 Oct then likely it was served in time and signage has been upgraded for some time.

Paying the discount probably best but you may want to post the PCN.


My appeal was , I was driving for Uber as I’m über driver , and I was following Uber suggested route , Uber suggested to forward them route plan , so I did together with this I said signage weren’t cleared . But they declined.

I know I can pay reduced , but I noticed some other people’s PCN was removed so I just wanted proper appeal wording etc , maybe it also removed mine .
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post Thu, 6 Dec 2018 - 18:35
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Post the original PCN in full, redacting just your name and address.


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willy101
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Hi
I received fine last year which I challenged but I didn’t receive the response , now they sent me extended fine plus all fees etc and also the PE3 form in case to appeal to court which I ll do it , but not sure how to fill , do I need Oath SOLICITOR to fill the part and do I have to pay for it ,
Can anyone please help in this ASAP

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This needs moving to the Council forum

Use the Report button
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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 15:32
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QUOTE (willy101 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 13:28) *
Can anyone please help in this ASAP

Well I asked you back on 6 Dec 2018 to show us the PCN, and you ignored me. What have you done since then?


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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 16:17
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 16:32) *
QUOTE (willy101 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 13:28) *
Can anyone please help in this ASAP

Well I asked you back on 6 Dec 2018 to show us the PCN, and you ignored me. What have you done since then?


Hi
I’m sorry I didn’t ignore at all , I might have forgotten , but I am loading this now https://imgur.com/a/ICN1Ixl

but currently the issue is PE3,

Thanks

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cp8759
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What did you do after you got the Notice of Rejection, which you showed us on 5 Dec 2018?


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willy101
post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 17:22
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 18:02) *
What did you do after you got the Notice of Rejection, which you showed us on 5 Dec 2018?

I appealed only first time which they replied but my first name was wrong spelling so I thought they ll correct and send me corrected one but now they sent me following but this time with correct complete name . Please help as I been focusing on other fine and didn’t do much abt this


https://ibb.co/qMsKVzX
https://ibb.co/7XG6byf


Thanks

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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 19:07
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So, you received a Notice of Rejection which offered the choice of paying or appealing to the London Tribunals, but you did nothing. Unfortunately by ignoring this letter you have made it impossible to revert the process, and must pay-up now. Whilst there is the possibility of submitting a Statutory Declaration, there are only a limited set of reasons why you are submitting it, and none would seem to match your circumstances, which is a basic failure to act on receipt of the OfR.

What happened to the Charge Certificate notice that would also have been sent before you received this Order for Recovery ?
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QUOTE (willy101 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 17:22) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 18:02) *
What did you do after you got the Notice of Rejection, which you showed us on 5 Dec 2018?

I appealed only first time which they replied but my first name was wrong spelling so I thought they ll correct and send me corrected one but now they sent me following but this time with correct complete name . Please help as I been focusing on other fine and didn’t do much abt this
Thanks

We can't help, you received a notice of rejection and you ignored it. By ignoring it, you have lost you right of appeal. You must pay or it will go up a lot more, and the bailiffs will eventually come to your house to collect the debt.


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willy101
post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 19:28
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QUOTE (Incandescent @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:07) *
So, you received a Notice of Rejection which offered the choice of paying or appealing to the London Tribunals, but you did nothing. Unfortunately by ignoring this letter you have made it impossible to revert the process, and must pay-up now. Whilst there is the possibility of submitting a Statutory Declaration, there are only a limited set of reasons why you are submitting it, and none would seem to match your circumstances, which is a basic failure to act on receipt of the OfR.

What happened to the Charge Certificate notice that would also have been sent before you received this Order for Recovery ?


Thanks for response !!!

I didn’t receive any charge notice etc in between rejection letter and final letter !
Can’t we challenge based on didn’t receive charge notice
Or wrong name etc !
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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 19:39
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Wrong first name - was it Wally instead of Willy? Sorry couldn't resist it.

Don't think not getting the charge certificate is a way back - the order for recovery is essential the CC plus an £8 fee.

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post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 19:40
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Not receiving the charge certificate is not a ground to make a statutory declaration.


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willy101
post Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:04
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QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:39) *
Wrong first name - was it Wally instead of Willy? Sorry couldn't resist it.

Don't think not getting the charge certificate is a way back - the order for recovery is essential the CC plus an £8 fee.


First name was wrongly spelled in rejection letter ! You can say that instead of Willy it was Wellie !
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QUOTE (willy101 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:04) *
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:39) *
Wrong first name - was it Wally instead of Willy? Sorry couldn't resist it.

Don't think not getting the charge certificate is a way back - the order for recovery is essential the CC plus an £8 fee.


First name was wrongly spelled in rejection letter ! You can say that instead of Willy it was Wellie !

It still makes no difference because by ignoring the rejection letter, you have lost your right to appeal.


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willy101
post Wed, 3 Apr 2019 - 15:20
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 21:20) *
QUOTE (willy101 @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:04) *
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 12 Feb 2019 - 20:39) *
Wrong first name - was it Wally instead of Willy? Sorry couldn't resist it.

Don't think not getting the charge certificate is a way back - the order for recovery is essential the CC plus an £8 fee.


First name was wrongly spelled in rejection letter ! You can say that instead of Willy it was Wellie !

It still makes no difference because by ignoring the rejection letter, you have lost your right to appeal.


Hi there
I filled the declaration with same reasons , and I received the response from court dated:20th Feb, confirming the order of recovery to be revoked and charge certificate to be cancelled , But since then I have not received anything from Council , I just checked online today fine gone back to £130 now , but so far no letter by post ! I thought to ask your help from here , I believe now we can challenge on some grounds etc ! Thanks for help
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