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[NIP Wizard] debt recovery plus parking charge notice
dougy
post Thu, 7 Dec 2017 - 18:44
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - June 2017
Date of the NIP: - 173 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 176 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Meadowhall Retail Park Attercliffe Common Sheffield S9 2YZ
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Second
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - I was previously the keeper of the vehicle sold it after the parking charge
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I took my disabled mum shopping and over stayed the time allowed fo parking, I received the parking charge some time later, don't know the date I just put it in the bin then I received a second letter saying it would be passed to a collections agency, on 16/11/17 I received the first letter from D R P ( debt recovery plus ltd) for £110, today I received the second letter from D R P, which is the NOTICE OF INTENDED ACTION- unpaid parking charge £110.
It goes on to say that if I don't make payment they would recommend to their client to take court action.
they also mention about a Supreme court ruling in November 2015 where the court ruled the parking charge was lawful.


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:44:04 +0000


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post Thu, 7 Dec 2017 - 18:47
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You’ll be wanting the private parking section of the forum and not the NIP wizard.

Hit the ‘!Report’ button and ask a mod to assist - but the NIP wizard output doesn’t apply here...


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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The Rookie
post Thu, 7 Dec 2017 - 18:49
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So not a criminal case but private parking.

I'll ask a Mod' to move it to the right forum for you.

Remove all hint of driver ID, refer to the driver only as the driver by editing the post.


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post Thu, 7 Dec 2017 - 21:45
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And then edit the post so that the driver cannot be identified.
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post Thu, 7 Dec 2017 - 23:46
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The keeper needs to write to CP Plus and keep proof, arguing that this is disability discrimination and a failure to make reasonable adjustments of time for a person with 'protected characteristics' as defined in the Equality Act 2010.

Copy in Meadowhall themselves, like this person did in their case where the Equality Act was an issue:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showto...20&start=20

Look at the letter I drafted in post #27 and adapt it to make sense for your case instead, make sure Meadowhall get a copy as it deliberately threatens 'their potential liability for compensation as a remedy for distress caused by your discrimination, in a case where {the parking firm} 'knew or should have known' {about the disability issue} and have persisted in harassing me for money and refused to make the necessary reasonable adjustments that are required under the Equality Act 2010.'

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I received the first letter from D R P ( debt recovery plus ltd) for £110, today I received the second letter from D R P, which is the NOTICE OF INTENDED ACTION- unpaid parking charge £110.


DRPlus won't be taking court action, because they are pen-pushers issuing computerised letters. They can't litigate.

But NOW is the time to make a formal complaint about disability discrimination. Attach proof as well (blue badge if she has one, or medical evidence - if she agrees to supply it).

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dougy
post Fri, 8 Dec 2017 - 00:07
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 7 Dec 2017 - 18:49) *
So not a criminal case but private parking.

I'll ask a Mod' to move it to the right forum for you.

Remove all hint of driver ID, refer to the driver only as the driver by editing the post.



Thank you for your help in getting me to the right area of the forum.


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