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[NIP Wizard] Unfair cop?
post Fri, 24 Jun 2016 - 13:47
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - June 2016
Date of the NIP: - 3 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 4 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A614 THORPE ROAD, HOWDEN, UNITED KINGDOM
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? -
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I was driving along and think i noticed a speed trap vehicle (may be a false memory but I think I did). I think I checked my speed and thought I was under the limit at the time (I thought it was 40 mph). Other than that I cannot recall. The A614 is an extremely long road on which the speed limit varies. I have just checked a post from which corresponds with where I think I saw the vehicle. The post says

"Speed Camera Details: As you head towards Bridlington, the speed limit drops to 30mph right on the roundabout and is easy to miss, next to the BP garage. From traffic lights just past industrial area after you come of motorway M62 to Boothferry Bridge mobile cameras all along this stretch of A614 beware as they change position regularly."

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:47:40 +0000
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post Fri, 24 Jun 2016 - 13:47
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post Fri, 24 Jun 2016 - 13:52
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What speed is alleged ?

What do you think was unfair ?
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post Fri, 24 Jun 2016 - 13:56
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Appears to be a restricted road which could limit 'unfairness'.

RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Fri, 24 Jun 2016 - 14:16
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GSV shows two clear 30mph terminal signs well before the roundabout. Seems fair enough to me.


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This post has been edited by peterguk: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 - 14:17

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