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roadhog
post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 21:50
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Out of curiosity can an Police Officer in Uniform/Plain clothes stop and search a person on a Motorbike? I know they can with driver's, but how about rider's?

Any help would be great.

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post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 21:52
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QUOTE (roadhog @ Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:50) *
Out of curiosity can an Police Officer stop and search a person on a Motorbike? I know they can with driver's, but how about rider's?

Any help would be great.


Curiously enough.....yes
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roadhog
post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:05
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I take it would have to be for a good reason?
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post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:07
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Does this relate to something you have experienced or witnessed or is it just a hypothetical question?

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roadhog
post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:14
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hypothetical
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post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:16
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QUOTE (roadhog @ Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 23:14) *
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Hypothetically speaking then,

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/1

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southpaw82
post Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:20
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Is there any logical reason why powers of stop and search wouldn't apply equally to riders of motorcycles as to anyone else's?


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samthecat
post Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 07:57
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OP - do you actually mean "stop and search" or are you referring to Police powers under the RTA to stop vehicles?

Just because a motorbike rider is required to stop and provide certain info to Police when requested does not mean there is an automatic power to search the rider or bike.


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post Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 08:05
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QUOTE (roadhog @ Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:50) *
Out of curiosity can an Police Officer in Uniform/Plain clothes stop and search a person on a Motorbike? I know they can with driver's, but how about rider's?

Any help would be great.

Would it be more likely if the rider were that rarest of all creatures a black motorcyclist?


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post Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 08:16
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QUOTE (nigelbb @ Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 09:05) *
QUOTE (roadhog @ Fri, 10 Jun 2016 - 22:50) *
Out of curiosity can an Police Officer in Uniform/Plain clothes stop and search a person on a Motorbike? I know they can with driver's, but how about rider's?

Any help would be great.

Would it be more likely if the rider were that rarest of all creatures a black motorcyclist?

With full face helmet, gloves and leathers, rider could be sky blue with one eye.
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Mr Meldrew
post Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 19:02
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An constable would require reasonable grounds for suspecting that (s)he will find stolen or prohibited articles (PACE S1 (3)).


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post Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 19:42
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QUOTE (Mr Meldrew @ Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 20:02) *
An constable would require reasonable grounds for suspecting that (s)he will find stolen or prohibited articles (PACE S1 (3)).

Assuming that's what they were searching for. There's more than one power of search.


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Mr Meldrew
post Sun, 12 Jun 2016 - 10:58
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 20:42) *
QUOTE (Mr Meldrew @ Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - 20:02) *
An constable would require reasonable grounds for suspecting that (s)he will find stolen or prohibited articles (PACE S1 (3)).

Assuming that's what they were searching for. There's more than one power of search.

Absolutely, but I understood the question to imply a typical stop and thought the thread unclear that the power is limited in those circumstances.


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southpaw82
post Sun, 12 Jun 2016 - 11:56
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that the police normally have the power to randomly search people, albeit that does assume a certain amount of common sense on the part of the reader.


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