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NIP received for reduced variable speed limit on M62
lifestoogood
post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 13:41
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Just received this 6 days after the alleged offence for doing exactly 70mph on the M62 near Leeds where they say the variable speed limit at the time was 60mph.

Name, address and vehicle are correct, but I really don't remember it being a 60 limit and can't think why it would have been given the distance between me and the car in front.



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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 13:49
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Right now all your being asked is to name the driver. Failing to do so is a separate offence. 70 in a 60 should result in a SAC.
Limits can be set for all sorts of reasons, not just because of traffic volume.


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lifestoogood
post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 13:54
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Do you think I may be jumping the gun too soon? It's just that I read the letter as their intention is to prosecute?
I suppose an SAC wouldn't be the end of the world if it's possible to be offered one for being 10mph over.

Limit wise, there was light traffic, bright dry morning, no road works. Seems difficult to justify a reduced speed limit if there was one.

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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 14:29
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QUOTE (lifestoogood @ Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 14:54) *
Limit wise, there was light traffic, bright dry morning, no road works.

All that is irrelevant to the offence.

To satisfy your curiosity you could ask Highways England why the speed limit was reduced, but their response is extremely unlikely to help.


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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 16:07
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QUOTE (lifestoogood @ Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 14:54) *
Do you think I may be jumping the gun too soon? It's just that I read the letter as their intention is to prosecute?

Yup, right over that gun, the only recourse if you don’t do the course or accept a fixed penalty is to prosecute, as they have to notify you now that they MAY prosecute that is what they are doing.


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lifestoogood
post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:06
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ok, I'll get the form filled in and sent back.
What's the expected procedure on here, report back here and see where to go from there?
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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:20
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It’s HADECS3 so there’s an auxiliary shot of the limit so there can be no argument.

After naming the driver they will offer a course or fixed penalty. You can accept one of those to avoid prosecution or opt for court but you don’t appear to have a defence so that would be a costly option.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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lifestoogood
post Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 20:15
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Received a reply today.
£100 fine and 3 points, or £90 and a course.
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