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PCN Contravention 21 – ISLINGTON BAY SUSPENSION
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post Mon, 10 Feb 2020 - 06:40
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I parked my car on my road, on 23rd Jan 2020, not directly outside my house but approx. 5 houses down, as is a busy road since Islington repositioned Arsenal stadium. Also there is now an Arsenal ticket booth shop across the road, approx. 15 houses down. On 6th Feb 2020, I found my car missing. As I saw a suspension notice for 3rd to 5th of Feb, (which was removed by the time I had walked up and down the road looking for my car) and bollards on the pavement around some builder’s works, I suspected the council moved my car. Unfortunately, they didn’t move it to another space on the same road, but around the corner, which I was informed when I rang the council.

I had to tear off the yellow sticker, the blue one came off easily, as I had an appointment.

Do I have any grounds for an appeal?

PCN FRONT

PCN BACK

SUSPENSION NOTICE

YELLOW STICKER

BLUE STICKER

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Stop panicking there is loads of time i will not let you down, but nor will i write something when i am out of sorts and not concentrating as i should. Give me a few days please. Remember this is only a response to the council summary and not your main submission that you already have


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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 19:29
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 18:20) *
Stop panicking there is loads of time i will not let you down, but nor will i write something when i am out of sorts and not concentrating as i should. Give me a few days please. Remember this is only a response to the council summary and not your main submission that you already have

Sorry PASTMYBEST, I thought you asked me to bump. I did once, and thought you'd missed it, so bumped again.

Should I upload the GP letter or wait until your further input?

I hope you feel better soon.
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post Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 21:42
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QUOTE (cc120 @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 20:29) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 18:20) *
Stop panicking there is loads of time i will not let you down, but nor will i write something when i am out of sorts and not concentrating as i should. Give me a few days please. Remember this is only a response to the council summary and not your main submission that you already have

Sorry PASTMYBEST, I thought you asked me to bump. I did once, and thought you'd missed it, so bumped again.

Should I upload the GP letter or wait until your further input?

I hope you feel better soon.


No wait, rather than send it of its self with no context. Not going into detail but i need a few days before i spend any time on anything Trust me


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post Fri, 3 Jul 2020 - 00:10
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 22:42) *
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 1 Jul 2020 - 18:20) *
Stop panicking there is loads of time i will not let you down, but nor will i write something when i am out of sorts and not concentrating as i should. Give me a few days please. Remember this is only a response to the council summary and not your main submission that you already have

Sorry PASTMYBEST, I thought you asked me to bump. I did once, and thought you'd missed it, so bumped again.

Should I upload the GP letter or wait until your further input?

I hope you feel better soon.


No wait, rather than send it of its self with no context. Not going into detail but i need a few days before i spend any time on anything Trust me

Thank you PASTMYBEST. I will, of course, wait to hear from you to upload the GP letter.
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post Sun, 19 Jul 2020 - 12:24
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Hooray, at last

spell check this fill in the case number and then convert to PDF and download to the tribunal along with the E mail from your doctor


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post Sun, 19 Jul 2020 - 20:21
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sun, 19 Jul 2020 - 13:24) *
Hooray, at last

spell check this fill in the case number and then convert to PDF and download to the tribunal along with the E mail from your doctor


https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtBHPhdJdppV0U_Y67D..._7cLMt?e=lYr0lt


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post Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 06:33
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sun, 19 Jul 2020 - 21:21) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sun, 19 Jul 2020 - 13:24) *
Hooray, at last

spell check this fill in the case number and then convert to PDF and download to the tribunal along with the E mail from your doctor


https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtBHPhdJdppV0U_Y67D..._7cLMt?e=lYr0lt

Hi PASTMYBEST, unfortunately the appeal was declined:

1 decision
2 decision
3 decision

Do I have 28 days from the date of this letter, to pay?

Do I have to pay to the address on the 1st page, or can I pay online?

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post Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 07:09
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Surprised at SSD.

I would ask for a Review.

The OP was lawfully parked until such time she became aware of the restriction (because she parked before the Notices were erected).

Whilst I appreciate SSD's comments that the OP should have checked her vehicle he overlooks compelling reasons and labels them as mitigation--different animals.

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post Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 08:10
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You must pay the council within the 28 days no doubt on line would be fine but check. You may have a reason for review A debilitating illness is not mitigation rather it is reasons beyond your control. In the TMO that is usually an exemption. I think the adjudicator didn't give enough weight to the fact that your vehicle was only in contravention for a matter of minutes


My advise is pay on time if you ask for and win a review you would be refunded

If you want t ask for a review let me know and i will draft something

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post Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 08:13
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QUOTE (Mad Mick V @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 08:09) *
Surprised at SSD.

I would ask for a Review.

The OP was lawfully parked until such time she became aware of the restriction (because she parked before the Notices were erected).

Whilst I appreciate SSD's comments that the OP should have checked her vehicle he overlooks compelling reasons and labels them as mitigation--different animals.

Mick

Thank you Mad Mick V.

Will the fine remain at £130 during/after a review?

How do I request a review?

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You must pay the council within the 28 days no doubt on line would be fine but check. You may have a reason for review A debilitating illness is not mitigation rather it is reasons beyond your control. In the

Thank you PASTMYBEST.
28 days from date on letter, ie 8 August?
I will check if I can pay online?

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post Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 08:30
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Yes you apply for a review by e mail to the proper officer at the tribunal The fine will not go up providing you have paid in the 28 days. Some councils allow you to delay payment til after the review but they are not obliged to so i advise paying and getting a refund

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post Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 08:39
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 09:30) *
Yes you apply for a review by e mail to the proper officer at the tribunal The fine will not go up providing you have paid in the 28 days. Some councils allow you to delay payment til after the review but they are not obliged to so i advise paying and getting a refund

Thank you PASTMYBEST. Would you be so kind as to provide wording for the review request? I will pay within the 28 days.
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QUOTE (cc120 @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 09:39) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 09:30) *
Yes you apply for a review by e mail to the proper officer at the tribunal The fine will not go up providing you have paid in the 28 days. Some councils allow you to delay payment til after the review but they are not obliged to so i advise paying and getting a refund

Thank you PASTMYBEST. Would you be so kind as to provide wording for the review request? I will pay within the 28 days.


Yes i will do so later


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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 09:44) *
QUOTE (cc120 @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 09:39) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 12 Aug 2020 - 09:30) *
Yes you apply for a review by e mail to the proper officer at the tribunal The fine will not go up providing you have paid in the 28 days. Some councils allow you to delay payment til after the review but they are not obliged to so i advise paying and getting a refund

Thank you PASTMYBEST. Would you be so kind as to provide wording for the review request? I will pay within the 28 days.


Yes i will do so later

Thank you. No rush smile.gif
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post Fri, 14 Aug 2020 - 14:07
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I started drafting a review application today whist doing so i looked at the exemption you claimed. Unfortunately the council specifically remove all exemptions for suspended bays

See article 1 at the top of TMO #13 in the councils evidence

With that in mind the adjudicator was entitled to find as he did that your medical condition amounted to mitigation only so i do not think it worth while asking for a review because there is no ground to overturn that decision

Sorry


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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Fri, 14 Aug 2020 - 15:07) *
I started drafting a review application today whist doing so i looked at the exemption you claimed. Unfortunately the council specifically remove all exemptions for suspended bays

See article 1 at the top of TMO #13 in the councils evidence

With that in mind the adjudicator was entitled to find as he did that your medical condition amounted to mitigation only so i do not think it worth while asking for a review because there is no ground to overturn that decision

Sorry

Thank you PASTMYBEST. Seems I should have just paid the £65 wink.gif

I appreciate all your help.

I was able to pay via the Islington Penalty Charge Notice payment online facility.

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QUOTE (cc120 @ Sat, 15 Aug 2020 - 15:41) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Fri, 14 Aug 2020 - 15:07) *
I started drafting a review application today whist doing so i looked at the exemption you claimed. Unfortunately the council specifically remove all exemptions for suspended bays

See article 1 at the top of TMO #13 in the councils evidence

With that in mind the adjudicator was entitled to find as he did that your medical condition amounted to mitigation only so i do not think it worth while asking for a review because there is no ground to overturn that decision

Sorry

Thank you PASTMYBEST. Seems I should have just paid the £65 wink.gif

I appreciate all your help.

I was able to pay via the Islington Penalty Charge Notice payment online facility.


had they reoffered the discount after your challenge as is usual i would have probably advised that but they didn't so we had to try


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post Tue, 18 Aug 2020 - 18:28
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sat, 15 Aug 2020 - 16:17) *
QUOTE (cc120 @ Sat, 15 Aug 2020 - 15:41) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Fri, 14 Aug 2020 - 15:07) *
I started drafting a review application today whist doing so i looked at the exemption you claimed. Unfortunately the council specifically remove all exemptions for suspended bays

See article 1 at the top of TMO #13 in the councils evidence

With that in mind the adjudicator was entitled to find as he did that your medical condition amounted to mitigation only so i do not think it worth while asking for a review because there is no ground to overturn that decision

Sorry

Thank you PASTMYBEST. Seems I should have just paid the £65 wink.gif

I appreciate all your help.

I was able to pay via the Islington Penalty Charge Notice payment online facility.


had they reoffered the discount after your challenge as is usual i would have probably advised that but they didn't so we had to try

Hi PASTMYBEST, do you mean after the Notice to Owner?
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